I love the S/T, but man, they were always kind of a terrible live act. Ian Brown sounds like garbage outside of a studio.
Stone Roses reforming
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chrisflyer said:I love the S/T, but man, they were always kind of a terrible live act. Ian Brown sounds like garbage outside of a studio.
chrisflyer said:I love the S/T, but man, they were always kind of a terrible live act. Ian Brown sounds like garbage outside of a studio.
this clip still cracks me up... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpMzUa4YXR8
i think the bbc pulled the power deliberately to put them out of their misery.
this clip still cracks me up... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpMzUa4YXR8
i think the bbc pulled the power deliberately to put them out of their misery.
They used to play my hometown a lot before they "Blew up". Friends bands have shared the bill with them, I didn't think they were anything special then but they had a baggier image than the next band and that's what got them in. I guess middle-class Britain had not been asked to ride for mildly-funky "Underground" white boys for a very long time. Squier can play, Brown I don't care for personally but he's done some interesting tracks post-Roses, like "F.E.A.R."
I ran into Brown in a Chinese take-away in Altrincham on New Year's Eve a while back. He was alone in there until I walked in. It was thick snow so only the very daftest of cunts would be out in it. I recognised him straight away and said "Alright, Ian?" in a friendly way. He completely ignored me. I watched to see what his order was, he was dining alone. I was picking up a hundred quid's worth for a party in Sale, so I guess my swag was self-evident and intimidating. He wasn't walking out of there with 2 bottles of shit free wine, for sure. Wankstain.
Later, a friend of mine was in Brown's band for a while and confirmed Brown was a overbearingly self-important cunt.
Bez and Ryder are better value in the flesh. Still fairly shit live. Charlatans and Insprials were better contemporary Manc gigging bands IMHO. Doc was around at the time and probably caught more.
I ran into Brown in a Chinese take-away in Altrincham on New Year's Eve a while back. He was alone in there until I walked in. It was thick snow so only the very daftest of cunts would be out in it. I recognised him straight away and said "Alright, Ian?" in a friendly way. He completely ignored me. I watched to see what his order was, he was dining alone. I was picking up a hundred quid's worth for a party in Sale, so I guess my swag was self-evident and intimidating. He wasn't walking out of there with 2 bottles of shit free wine, for sure. Wankstain.
Later, a friend of mine was in Brown's band for a while and confirmed Brown was a overbearingly self-important cunt.
Bez and Ryder are better value in the flesh. Still fairly shit live. Charlatans and Insprials were better contemporary Manc gigging bands IMHO. Doc was around at the time and probably caught more.
Actually, Jimster, when all that stuff was going on, I was listening to hip-hop, house and what they were calling "street soul" (Loose Ends, Rosaline Joyce, Projection, Deluxe, that kind of thing). I didn't give a fuck about guitar bands. I took a lot of convincing when it came to the Roses. When I was living in Manchester, they were just a two-bob circuit band known for kick-offs at their gigs (they had a big scooter boy following), and for tagging every listed building in the city centre. When the album came out, I remember a lot of people getting really excited about it; there'd been something of a buzz around the preceding singles, but all the time I was thinking, hang on, is this the same crappy Stone Roses from a few years ago? Why all the fuss? Did they suddenly get good or something? Evidently, a lot of people thought they had. One of them was a mate who's now quite a well-established TV director in the UK. I was doing some work with him while I was studying film at a local college not long after the album came out. He played it all the time in his car that summer, and eventually it wore me down. I did like Fool's Gold from the off, though - all the indie kids thought it was inspired by Can, but anyone who'd spent any time at the Hacienda could tell you they'd just hoisted the bassline from Young MC's Know How (something Mani finally admitted to on the radio a few years ago). To be perfectly honest I always prefered The Charlatans, although the fact they were mates probably had a little bit to do with that. Nonetheless, I never saw them do a bad gig, ever, and for all the stick Tim Burgess took BITD for supposedly being Ian Brown's Mini-Me, he was a far better singer. As for the Mondays, every time I saw them, they were a drug-fucked shambles. A big part of their appeal for some. I tended to stick with the records.
funky16corners said:Unless they're going to hand out shrooms and play 'Fool's Gold for two hours I'm not going.
This.
This.
Stone Roses were pretty cool. Fools Gold is extremely played out now, but it was ok for a minute when it came out.
In time this became my favorite track off that album.
Not bad, you must admit.
I'd be interested to see what they come up with now.
And no offense, but some guy saying 'allright Ian' - calling out a celebrity by their first name and ish when they might not be interested in convo with a stranger, is rightfully being ignored imo.
Being Ian Brown > Picking up a lot of chinese take away.
In time this became my favorite track off that album.
Not bad, you must admit.
I'd be interested to see what they come up with now.
And no offense, but some guy saying 'allright Ian' - calling out a celebrity by their first name and ish when they might not be interested in convo with a stranger, is rightfully being ignored imo.
Being Ian Brown > Picking up a lot of chinese take away.
staxwax said:Stone Roses were pretty cool. Fools Gold is extremely played out now, but it was ok for a minute when it came out.
In time this became my favorite track off that album.
Not bad, you must admit.
I'd be interested to see what they come up with now.
And no offense, but some guy saying 'allright Ian' - calling out a celebrity by their first name and ish when they might not be interested in convo with a stranger, is rightfully being ignored imo.
Being Ian Brown > Picking up a lot of chinese take away.
LOL. The comment about the chinese was sarcasm. I'll try "May I shake the hand of Sir Ian Brown of The Stone Roses" next time. Not that I wanted to shake his f*cking wanking-claw or engage in convo with him. I take my Chinese errand-running extremely f*cking seriously.
In time this became my favorite track off that album.
Not bad, you must admit.
I'd be interested to see what they come up with now.
And no offense, but some guy saying 'allright Ian' - calling out a celebrity by their first name and ish when they might not be interested in convo with a stranger, is rightfully being ignored imo.
Being Ian Brown > Picking up a lot of chinese take away.
LOL. The comment about the chinese was sarcasm. I'll try "May I shake the hand of Sir Ian Brown of The Stone Roses" next time. Not that I wanted to shake his f*cking wanking-claw or engage in convo with him. I take my Chinese errand-running extremely f*cking seriously.
ian brown always appeared to me to own exactly one tee shirt around the time of their debut album. did they get jerked that hard by the label that dude couldn't afford a 2nd outfit?
This doesn't really come as a surprise to me. John Squire had an exhibition of his art at a gallery round the corner from my workplace a while ago. Having had a quick scan through the window at the collected works I surmised that it wouldn't be too long before the Stone Roses reformed.
on a similar tip to junior's anecdote, Mani showed up at a club near me recently, together with Bobby Gillespie and the rest of Primal Scream, they were djing. surprisingly down to earth dudes, very chilled as you would expect from retired-ish rockstars, perhaps to the point of being a bit bored. Mani's missus smoked a spliff in the loo and got chucked out, so him and the bouncers ended up arguing on the street. Maybe it's the lack of excitement in their lives that prompted this.
I'm sure the roses were a terrible live band, their records are too well produced for them to have been anything more than underwhelming in person. b/w I've never understood why everyone worships the first couple of minutes of Breaking Into Heaven, I always found it a bit wanky, as with most of the second coming lp. early shit means a lot to me though, specially elephant stone. its nothing to do with quality, its to do with the experiences their music soundtracked, not druggy ones per se (in my case), more like that rose-tinted optimism of my teens.
I'm sure the roses were a terrible live band, their records are too well produced for them to have been anything more than underwhelming in person. b/w I've never understood why everyone worships the first couple of minutes of Breaking Into Heaven, I always found it a bit wanky, as with most of the second coming lp. early shit means a lot to me though, specially elephant stone. its nothing to do with quality, its to do with the experiences their music soundtracked, not druggy ones per se (in my case), more like that rose-tinted optimism of my teens.
I'm an interested party (working on the show) but the number of blagging calls I got from near strangers yesterday makes me think this'll sell fast. The people most gagging to go seem to be younger ones who can only have known the band through the records, or more likely through that one endlessly played track. Funny how they've become a band that every indie hipster references as an influence but I guess a massive drug intake, warring bandmates, a premature split and one iconic track are all you need to be a Music Legend (TM).
rootlesscosmo said:ian brown always appeared to me to own exactly one tee shirt around the time of their debut album. did they get jerked that hard by the label that dude couldn't afford a 2nd outfit?
J i m s t e r said:LOL. The comment about the chinese was sarcasm. I'll try "May I shake the hand of Sir Ian Brown of The Stone Roses" next time. Not that I wanted to shake his f*cking wanking-claw or engage in convo with him. I take my Chinese errand-running extremely f*cking seriously.
The added wankstain dampened the sarcyness with a hint of bitterness.
Here's a little tip on how to engage those with more standing in the world, for future reference:
If you dont give a shit about a motherfucker, next time, shut the fuck up when you see them.
That way, you wont get your feelings hurt when your being all talkative and star struck again.
:hi:
The added wankstain dampened the sarcyness with a hint of bitterness.
Here's a little tip on how to engage those with more standing in the world, for future reference:
If you dont give a shit about a motherfucker, next time, shut the fuck up when you see them.
That way, you wont get your feelings hurt when your being all talkative and star struck again.
:hi:
