Dusty Groove currently has a Strata East comp http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=2qrh43j3tt&ref=index.php and a Black Jazz comp http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=qnnbk985jj&ref=index.php featured on their homepage. If you could only pick one, which would it be? I heard things from both labels that I loved, but I have also heard things that were just meh...please advise a Strata East / Black Jazz newbie.
Strata East vs Black Jazz?
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I would go with Strata East as well. Although just to be fair in a future comparison for you when you get into buying stand alone albums, there are far more Strata East albums than Black Jazz. Furthermore, while I have found gems on both labels, I tend to have my favorites in the Black Jazz label. i.e. - Roland Haynes- 2nd Wave and Rudolph Johnson- Spring Rain. Strata East is going to have more (quantity wise) of the ethnocentric albums and Black Jazz has a leaning toward spiritual/soul jazz. This is all generally speaking.
InnerSpace said:Furthermore, while I have found gems on both labels, I tend to have my favorites in the Black Jazz label. i.e. - Roland Haynes- 2nd Wave and Rudolph Johnson- Spring Rain. Strata East is going to have more (quantity wise) of the ethnocentric albums and Black Jazz has a leaning toward spiritual/soul jazz. This is all generally speaking.
Disagree on all counts. Black Jazz is mostly shlocky Fonky Jazz / boring soul jazz. There are a few TRACKS that i really love from a couple Black Jazz albums, but for the most part the albums are turds.
Check this version of "Black Orchid" from Gene Russell's New Direction LP
Disagree on all counts. Black Jazz is mostly shlocky Fonky Jazz / boring soul jazz. There are a few TRACKS that i really love from a couple Black Jazz albums, but for the most part the albums are turds.
Check this version of "Black Orchid" from Gene Russell's New Direction LP
Then again, if the comps hand pick the best tracks from their label's output then either should be a safe bet. There are a lot of one tracker albums on Black Jazz, so a comp sounds like the perfect way to enjoy the label without having to sit through tepidness.
But yeah, in terms of labels, I'd purge all my Black Jazz in a heartbeat before my Strata records.
But yeah, in terms of labels, I'd purge all my Black Jazz in a heartbeat before my Strata records.
some of my favs from
Black Jazz: anything by Doug & Jean Carn especially "Adam's Apple" & "Spirit Of The New Land", The Awakening's "Mirage", Walter Bishop Jr.'s "Coral Keys" & Rudolph Johnson "The Second Coming"
Strata-East: Gil Scott-Heron & Brian Jackson "Winter in America", Charlie Rouse "Two Is One", The Ensemble Al-Salaam "The Sojourner", Brother Ahh "Sound Awareness", Pharoah Sanders "Izipho Zam" & Billy Parker's Fourth World "Freedom Of Speech"
a similar label you might want to explore too is Phil Ranelin's Tribe Records
Black Jazz: anything by Doug & Jean Carn especially "Adam's Apple" & "Spirit Of The New Land", The Awakening's "Mirage", Walter Bishop Jr.'s "Coral Keys" & Rudolph Johnson "The Second Coming"
Strata-East: Gil Scott-Heron & Brian Jackson "Winter in America", Charlie Rouse "Two Is One", The Ensemble Al-Salaam "The Sojourner", Brother Ahh "Sound Awareness", Pharoah Sanders "Izipho Zam" & Billy Parker's Fourth World "Freedom Of Speech"
a similar label you might want to explore too is Phil Ranelin's Tribe Records
musica said:
Disagree on all counts. Black Jazz is mostly shlocky Fonky Jazz / boring soul jazz. There are a few TRACKS that i really love from a couple Black Jazz albums, but for the most part the albums are turds.
this seems a little harsh. did you listen those I mentioned above ?
I agree that most of the Black Jazz catalog isn't great. but there are some killer albums for sure.
Disagree on all counts. Black Jazz is mostly shlocky Fonky Jazz / boring soul jazz. There are a few TRACKS that i really love from a couple Black Jazz albums, but for the most part the albums are turds.
this seems a little harsh. did you listen those I mentioned above ?
I agree that most of the Black Jazz catalog isn't great. but there are some killer albums for sure.
wyzewayz said:Love Both, highly recommend output from both labels, why not try both?
though $$$ for $$$ I am usually more prepared to shell out for the strata east jawns
I can't even think of any Black Jazz records that consistently go for over $100, while there are plenty on Strata for $200+
though $$$ for $$$ I am usually more prepared to shell out for the strata east jawns
I can't even think of any Black Jazz records that consistently go for over $100, while there are plenty on Strata for $200+
upskiboo said:this thread just reminded me i gotta find a way to clean this off !!!!!
lol who drew that Debian logo on it
Shamek Farrah First Impressions. that's the first Strata-East album I listened 3 years ago. When I was starting my exploration of the endless world of Jazz
lol who drew that Debian logo on it
Shamek Farrah First Impressions. that's the first Strata-East album I listened 3 years ago. When I was starting my exploration of the endless world of Jazz
damms said:upskiboo said:this thread just reminded me i gotta find a way to clean this off !!!!!
lol who drew that Debian logo on it
Shamek Farrah First Impressions. that's the first Strata-East album I listened 3 years ago. When I was starting my exploration of the endless world of Jazz
looks like someone smoked a joint while listning to the record and drew a green vortex right across the front, haha... daamn
lol who drew that Debian logo on it
Shamek Farrah First Impressions. that's the first Strata-East album I listened 3 years ago. When I was starting my exploration of the endless world of Jazz
looks like someone smoked a joint while listning to the record and drew a green vortex right across the front, haha... daamn
musica said:InnerSpace said:Furthermore, while I have found gems on both labels, I tend to have my favorites in the Black Jazz label. i.e. - Roland Haynes- 2nd Wave and Rudolph Johnson- Spring Rain. Strata East is going to have more (quantity wise) of the ethnocentric albums and Black Jazz has a leaning toward spiritual/soul jazz. This is all generally speaking.
Disagree on all counts. Black Jazz is mostly shlocky Fonky Jazz / boring soul jazz. There are a few TRACKS that i really love from a couple Black Jazz albums, but for the most part the albums are turds.
Check this version of "Black Orchid" from Gene Russell's New Direction LP
A little bit overstated. I own all but about 3 of the strata albums and all but one of the black jazz albums and there are great albums and not as great albums on both labels. But both Awakening albums, Henry Franklin- the skipper, Rudolph johnson's albums are not one trackers. I would say that more than half of the Black Jazz label is really good jazz. Personal taste is going to dictate a lot of this but there are great albums in both camps. as far as which label has the most quality output, Strata is the winner. I just happen to have my favorites in Black jazz.
Also you might want to check out the Strata label (not the same as Strata East) there are good ones on that label too ironically, especially Lyman Woodard and Larry Nozero.
Disagree on all counts. Black Jazz is mostly shlocky Fonky Jazz / boring soul jazz. There are a few TRACKS that i really love from a couple Black Jazz albums, but for the most part the albums are turds.
Check this version of "Black Orchid" from Gene Russell's New Direction LP
A little bit overstated. I own all but about 3 of the strata albums and all but one of the black jazz albums and there are great albums and not as great albums on both labels. But both Awakening albums, Henry Franklin- the skipper, Rudolph johnson's albums are not one trackers. I would say that more than half of the Black Jazz label is really good jazz. Personal taste is going to dictate a lot of this but there are great albums in both camps. as far as which label has the most quality output, Strata is the winner. I just happen to have my favorites in Black jazz.
Also you might want to check out the Strata label (not the same as Strata East) there are good ones on that label too ironically, especially Lyman Woodard and Larry Nozero.
musica said
isagree on all counts. Black Jazz is mostly shlocky Fonky Jazz / boring soul jazz. There are a few TRACKS that i really love from a couple Black Jazz albums, but for the most part the albums are turds.
I would say the complete opposite. I own every Black Jazz release and think that the vast majority of the tracks are spiritual jazz. Only a couple are soul jazz.
isagree on all counts. Black Jazz is mostly shlocky Fonky Jazz / boring soul jazz. There are a few TRACKS that i really love from a couple Black Jazz albums, but for the most part the albums are turds.I would say the complete opposite. I own every Black Jazz release and think that the vast majority of the tracks are spiritual jazz. Only a couple are soul jazz.
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