I dunno, I've had several copies of that record in the last five years...maybe it's more common here in SF?
Super-raers?
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I dunno, I've had several copies of that record in the last five years...maybe it's more common here in SF?
two three known copies!
That's pretty cool... it's hilarious to me how many supposedly incredibly mind numbingly rare (or, I guess "super-raer") records are owned by one if not multiple soulstrutters.
The supposed number of copies pressed/known of any given record gets bandied about pretty casually. In some cases pressing numbers are well-researched, but a lot of the time it's taken from rumor and ebay descriptions. A lot of label owners & artists even have a hard time remembering.
I think Dante said that only Shadow and the group have known copies of this right now. PDX stand up. Get familiar with the reish.
I sold a copy to a strutter. Does he remember that he has it?
Details please. Oh, and thanks for calling Mr PDX Funk 45 first.
Yes - I think I still have it somewhere. Sheesh. I thought it sounded great, but I had no IDEA.
Really? I thought I sold it to that bay area scholar. Then I remembered I always call you first.
Exactly. I mean you gotta figure that most small press records are pressings of 1-500 copies. I doubt you've ever been able to go get 5 copies of a record pressed (not counting acetates). It just does not make sense. So, unless it is known that most copies of something were somehow destroyed, I find it hard to believe that there are all these "5 known copies in existance" type records.two three known copies!
That's pretty cool... it's hilarious to me how many supposedly incredibly mind numbingly rare (or, I guess "super-raer") records are owned by one if not multiple soulstrutters.
The supposed number of copies pressed/known of any given record gets bandied about pretty casually. In some cases pressing numbers are well-researched, but a lot of the time it's taken from rumor and ebay descriptions. A lot of label owners & artists even have a hard time remembering.
I've wanted to know about these for some time too.when Afrika Bambaataa listed his break list in 88 edition of England's Blues and Soul magazine is said that these records were so rare that only Bam had them or they didn't exist.
More info please.
Minimum Wage by Rock N Roll
and
Give The Drummer Some by Little Milton
?????
Someone on this board should know the deal.
My guess is he made the records up
two three known copies!
That's pretty cool... it's hilarious to me how many supposedly incredibly mind numbingly rare (or, I guess "super-raer") records are owned by one if not multiple soulstrutters.
The supposed number of copies pressed/known of any given record gets bandied about pretty casually. In some cases pressing numbers are well-researched, but a lot of the time it's taken from rumor and ebay descriptions. A lot of label owners & artists even have a hard time remembering.
Exactly. I mean you gotta figure that most small press records are pressings of 1-500 copies. I doubt you've ever been able to go get 5 copies of a record pressed (not counting acetates). It just does not make sense. So, unless it is known that most copies of something were somehow destroyed, I find it hard to believe that there are all these "5 known copies in existance" type records.
I think vanity labels would press micro runs. Labels like Century which the C Unltd was on. As I recall Dante said that when they found the band they couldn't remember making the record. Mingering Mike paid for pressings of one or two also I believe. There is that Frank Wilson record on Soul with only one known copy. Based on the price of the Frank Wilson the people who spent $1,200 on James Brown acetates got a steal.
I tried to find the band but the names on the label were like Michael Johnson and James Jones. I asked some old timers, but didn't find anything. Dante and Josh did their homework, found sources in my hood that I didn't think to ask.
I picked that Cavaliers re-ish up the other week, pretty cool. A friend of mine has a real rare 45 by an Australian 60s garage/psych band called the Elois, it has a yellow label & is pretty cool, he seems to like to tell me how scarce it is. Pretty funny, I'd never heard of it, but then again, not really my scene.
Well not quite everyone, chris.....and not many of them would be interested in LP's....unlike myself
i just meant there was a post in the trades section over there from scott offering it up to anyone with some specific quadruple-digit range 45s.
furthermore, it should be noted here that that cover is the basis for conchillo's photoshop of the "2nd us warren lp" that people still think is real.....
Well not quite everyone, chris.....and not many of them would be interested in LP's....unlike myself
i just meant there was a post in the trades section over there from scott offering it up to anyone with some specific quadruple-digit range 45s.
He offered it here as well.
Indeed. Weren't you the one who asked him to produce the proof?
Well not quite everyone, chris.....and not many of them would be interested in LP's....unlike myself
i just meant there was a post in the trades section over there from scott offering it up to anyone with some specific quadruple-digit range 45s.
He offered it here as well.
Indeed. Weren't you the one who asked him to produce the proof?
E.R. Sanctified Jones is For Realls. Proof: track number 2 (right after "Goodie Box" and before "The Fourth Movement") is entitled "I Like To Take My Time." Nassty stuff.
I've wanted to know about these for some time too.when Afrika Bambaataa listed his break list in 88 edition of England's Blues and Soul magazine is said that these records were so rare that only Bam had them or they didn't exist.
More info please.
Minimum Wage by Rock N Roll
and
Give The Drummer Some by Little Milton
?????
Someone on this board should know the deal.
My guess is he made the records up
the first one is probably 'Minimum Wage Rock and Roll' by the Bus Boys
'Give the Drummer Some' is possibly a Little Hooks track.
There is that Frank Wilson record on Soul with only one known copy.
There are actually 2 known copies, one in the UK, one in Canada.
The reason why there are so few copies (per the web):
A source at Motown/Polygram revealed Wilson's about turn on his vocal debut and quickly convinced Berry Gordy to destroy all existing promo copies.
a super-raer not only has to be super-rare but also a very desireable record...which usually means it has to be blindingly good in addition to being rare.
here's something i found recently which i think would qualify...a trinidad funk / disco 12" with sick breaks and really good playing throughout...both sides are bangers and the only info i found on the net was a thread on a hip-hop board about breaks. anybody know this? it's The Lovemakers "Sex" / "Right Place" 12".
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Huh. The story I heard was that Gordy was adamant about having his producer/songwriters behind the scenes and to let the stars handle vocal duties, and that he convinced Frank to give up on a performing career
I imagined this was the reason Leon Ware later was never given his fair shake at Motown
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I have a decent local funk 45 that is unknown even by experts... but I haven't asked Dante or Shadow about it.
This is a Caribbean boot/pressing of the Boobie Knight. I found a 25-count box of these in Illinois a few years back.
My nominee for rarest funk/soul LP is the Marvin Peterson & the Soul Masters Band "Live At The Burning Bush" on Century.
I turned up a copy in the mid-90s and still to this day no one knows shit about its existence.
Monster funk from 1971, Texas vanity like a mug, stock "gospel hands" cover.
This is a Caribbean boot/pressing of the Boobie Knight. I found a 25-count box of these in Illinois a few years back.
thanks for clearing that up...so 26 copies...still raer!
