TAKE THAT SHIT TO THE-BRITS.COM

That midfield is pretty depressing. Hope they don't fuck up Oxlade-Chamberlain in the same way they did Theo. Surely there's better options than Downing.. Adam Johnson? Nathan Dyer? Joe Cole even. What has Gerrard done lately to warrant being selected? & how have we not produced any creative midfielders in the last decade. Why not try and move forward a little, maybe give Tom Cleverly chance, or get Paul Scholes back, at least he's played well this season.





AND.. I agree with Doc. Taking Jones is a waste of a spot Richards would be a better choice.
 
Stewart Downing: 0 Assists, 0 goals, 3 missed penalties





Lennon, even Adam Johnson, any of those Swansea boys... anybody else on the wing.
 
Paul Scholes!! LOL dude what are you thinking??!?





The paucity of right back is somewhat mitigated by expert tuition that only the proven wonder-coach Neville G can provide. Lulz.





That midfield. Jesus, is that the best we can do?


Downing.





And you dude's pooh-poohed Teh Harry.
 
Joe Hart





Johnson Terry Lescott Cole





Walcott? Barry or Parker Lampard Young





Gerrard (451) Welbeck (442)





Carroll
 
skel said:Paul Scholes!! LOL dude what are you thinking??!?Little Pauly Scholes was like the second best midfielder in EPL or sumtin. Gary 'YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN MY CLOSET' Lineker told me so.
 
Who remembers when the talk was al about how the influx of johnny foreigner was going to bring the standard of our players right up?





Now our star forward line for the first phase is Welbeck and Carroll.





This is totally hilarious.


Euroman must be pissing himself.
 
It's of no great surprise we haven't developed anyone when we leave Stuart Pearce in charge of the kids and he plays a 24 year old James Milner as the center piece of his U21 side.





We should just give up, hire Tony Pulis & play this side





Joe Hart





Shawcross Terry Lescott Higginbotham





Jones Barry Parker Milner





Carroll Crouch








Then at least they might fluke their into playing against Spain and we'll finally get an answer to the eternal question of 'Could Barcelona beat Stoke on a cold wet Wednesday'.
 
All kind of looks like Woy will be playing a big boot up the field type approach which I guess will work as well as anything else managers have tried over recent years.





While the inclusion of Terry irks me no end I think the defence is bearable. The lack of variety in the midfield is hilarious though and the strikeforce is just plain depressing.





I would like to know what logic insists that Carroll is a better choice than striker with a proven international record like Crouch. Please to avoid arguments about looking to the future.





Also, rofl at the inclusion of the Ox.





Still, I want to believe Woy, I want to believe.
 
Wot no Sturridge?





Wot no reponses to my "All-Prem" team suggestion yesterday? Other than cicadas-4-days. I feel the conflict of having to field multiple U*ited players. But my bitterness only goes so far, I have to save some for work.
 
Junior said:Still, I want to believe Woy, I want to believe.




Conversely, I was secretly worrying that, having taken 0.00 interest in England since their ignominous WC exit, the useless gets, I would be caught embarrassingly flat-footed by the revelation that a young, dynamic, inventive and capable new England would be turning up at the Euros. As you can imagine, I'm quite relieved that the most stressful thing I'll now be doing during the contest is repeatedly explaining to bewildered Germans why I'm so utterly indifferent to England's prospects. Watch the cunts go and win it now.





As for fears that Hodgson may be ushering in a return to "whack it up top to the big man" football, any Liverpool fan can tell you that this is almost certainly why he's picked both Carroll and such a predictable midfield (Ox notwithstanding). Obvious, really, when you consider the roaring success he enjoyed using similar tactics at LFC.
 
J i m s t e r said:Wot no Sturridge?







He's on the replacements list. Who knows, if Wellbeck doesn't get fit perhaps he can come in and Trevor Sinclair the tournament though that seems doubtful at best.





DocMcCoy said:Junior said:Still, I want to believe Woy, I want to believe.




Conversely, I was secretly worrying that, having taken 0.00 interest in England since their ignominous WC exit, the useless gets, I would be caught embarrassingly flat-footed by the revelation that a young, dynamic, inventive and capable new England would be turning up at the Euros. As you can imagine, I'm quite relieved that the most stressful thing I'll now be doing during the contest is repeatedly explaining to bewildered Germans why I'm so utterly indifferent to England's prospects. Watch the cunts go and win it now.





As for fears that Hodgson may be ushering in a return to "whack it up top to the big man" football, any Liverpool fan can tell you that this is almost certainly why he's picked both Carroll and such a predictable midfield (Ox notwithstanding). Obvious, really, when you consider the roaring success he enjoyed using similar tactics at LFC.




Ha ha, I think passing the captaincy to Gerrard instead of Hart says it all about focusing on the future prospects. I do have a nagging suspicion that the hit and hope tactics may work for some of the matches but the utter lack of any options for plan b is rather glaringly obvious.
 
Is it possible to have more than one plan if your talent pool can't execute it? Have we got players that can do Barca football? Is it OK to admit "Well, this is what we have, so this is what we'll do and Euroman MUST DEAL." For me, yes. We've got a shitty hand, talent-wise, so play it as best you can and to continue the gambling analogy, let dem chip fall, innit blud.





I wish Woy the best. We're probably not good enough to get to the semis. We could maybe scalp some teams with big geometric shapes on their kit, but it's never going to be a well-drilled goal-machine. There is 'nuff pessimism for the squad but hey I am sure there are 'nuff euroman bemoaning their shot-kneed chud fillers too.
 
J i m s t e r said:Is it possible to have more than one plan if your talent pool can't execute it? Have we got players that can do Barca football? Is it OK to admit "Well, this is what we have, so this is what we'll do and Euroman MUST DEAL."




No argument here on the lack of tiki-taka but surely there must have been more options regarding mixing things up if/when the match isn't going to plan? I mean, look at the bench we'll have, unless the Ox comes on and does his magic there's nothing there to shake things up a bit either creatively in midfield or pace wise at front.








B/w





J i m s t e r said: We could maybe scalp some teams with big geometric shapes on their kit




Excellent work Jimster. Going to save this one.
 
FSG to Kenny;





:walk_away_son:





Oh, well. It was inevitable, I suppose. But where to now, St. Peter?
 
FAO Junior:





http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/may/16/premier-league-season-joey-barton





No Premier League title has ever been decided on goal difference before, and even before the rebranding of the top division in 1992 finishes as close as the one we have just seen were uncommon.





The most recent and most famous was Arsenal snatching the crown from under Liverpool's noses at Anfield in 1989, but for all the drama and excitement of Michael Thomas's last-minute winner ??? not only immortalised in the Fever Pitch novel and subsequent film but credited with ushering in the present era by waking everyone up to the commercial possibilities of live televised football ??? that game took place in isolation. The fixture had been delayed due to the Hillsborough disaster and then Liverpool's involvement in the FA Cup final, and was played on a weekday evening in late May, three days after everyone else's season had been completed and all issues apart from the destination of the title resolved.





Arsenal had not recorded a win at Anfield in 15 seasons and Liverpool had not lost at home by two or more goals for three years, so Kenny Dalglish's side were overwhelming favourites. All Arsenal could do was go for a win and, though the game was predictably cagey at first, that is what they ended up doing. Discussion afterwards centred on whether Dalglish got his gameplan right in attempting to keep things tight at the back, even after the visitors had scored the first goal.





It would be a close call to say which denouement was the most dramatic, Arsenal exposing Liverpool's lack of ambition or Manchester City taking their fans to the edge of despair before rescuing the situation in stoppage time, but the fact that other games were taking place simultaneously last Sunday certainly added another dimension to the most breathtaking finish the Premier League has seen. Match of the Day did a great job of patching the scenes from the Stadium of Light into the unbelievable events at the Etihad, but there was more than just Manchester United heartache ??? as if it was not United's turn for a bit of heartache ??? to factor into the equation.





Consider this. Joey Barton might have been the man responsible for depriving United of the title, wrapping it up for City and sending Bolton down. How? Well he was mostly responsible for the five minutes of stoppage time at the Etihad, wasn't he? No stoppage time, no incredible finale with just seconds to spare. Yet something else happened during the overtime at the Etihad. Bolton's match at Stoke ended in a draw, so Queens Park Rangers went into the final minutes of their game knowing they were safe. That could have made a crucial difference, for players definitely picked up the news from their supporters, and I have read at least one report ??? I was at the Britannia Stadium on Sunday so I couldn't swear it first hand ??? that mentions QPR switching off just before the end. It is hard to say for sure whether it happened or not, but it might have done.





Yet Bolton in their turn were undone by events at City. Leading 2-1 at the break against a Stoke side that were not exactly busting a gut to get back on terms, Bolton should have been capable of seeing the game out but were utterly disheartened to hear QPR had not only taken the lead at City but appeared to be holding on to it. Bearing in mind that even a QPR draw would have sent Bolton down, Owen Coyle's players must have been distracted, to say the least, on hearing that Rangers were winning and that whatever they achieved against Stoke might not be enough. Again, Coyle could not confirm or deny that concentration had wavered due to the news from elsewhere, but he agreed that it might have. City were still losing 2-1 by the time Bolton finished their game in the belief their result would not have mattered anyway, only to be galled by the discovery that had they held on to their lead Sergio Ag??ero's winner would have saved them. But then again, had Bolton held on to their lead, maybe QPR would not have surrendered theirs so completely.





Who knows? If all last days of the season were like that no one could possibly complain, but maybe United would have had the title sewn up before the end were it not for Dave Bryan. Oh come on, you must remember him. He was the linesman at Chelsea, subsequently stood down, who let two outrageous offside goals stand to deprive Wigan of an away win they thoroughly warranted. And who did Wigan play next, with a sense of burning injustice to add to their new formation and hitherto unsuspected ability to give the top teams a chasing? Manchester United at home. The rest is history, but had Wigan collected the points they deserved from Stamford Bridge they might not have been quite as fired up against United and history could have been written differently.





One thing we can all agree on is that the season just ended has been the most sensational in Premier League history. Those who wish to discuss whether sensationalism is a good thing or a bad thing can do so somewhere else. Perhaps the quality of the football has been higher in previous years, and maybe we have seen more dominant title candidates than either of the Manchester sides have proved this season, especially when you take Europe into account. But in terms of generating interest, excitement, controversy, spectacle and an astonishing number of surprises, 2011-12 surely had it all. It deserves to be remembered as the most gobsmacking season of all, and here are 10 reasons why.





1) The final day, obviously.





2) One of the best hat-tricks of all time ??? Luis Su??rez's one man show at Norwich.





3) All three promoted teams staying up, only the second time this has ever happened.





4) Some genuinely amazing scorelines. United 1 City 6, United 8 Arsenal 2, Chelsea 3 Arsenal 5.





5) Wigan's recovery. Not a last day scrape or a case of three worse teams saving their skin, as happened in the past. When Dave Whelan criticised Roberto Mart??nez's team selection following a home defeat by Swansea in early March Wigan were bottom of the table looking doomed. Two months later they were top of the Premier League form table and safe, after notable wins against Arsenal, United, Newcastle, Liverpool and others helped pick up 21 points from nine games. Not sure the Premier League has ever seen anything quite like it.





6) Newcastle's overseas signings. Hatem Ben Arfa alone is worth anyone's admission money, but put him in a team with Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba and Papiss Ciss?? and excitement is almost guaranteed. That's not even mentioning Fabricio Coloccini and Tim Krul. An absolutely brilliant season on Tyneside ??? great to have you back.





7) The best off-field controversies ever. There is nothing big or clever about alleged racist abuse or refusing to accede to your manager's request to warm up before being sent on as a substitute, but though the Luis Su??rez/John Terry/Carlos Tevez situations may have started out as tawdry affairs no one could have predicted the fallout. Liverpool persisted in being doggedly wrong-headed right up to the point of Dalglish giving that car crash of a TV interview with Geoff Shreeves at Old Trafford; Terry ended up bringing Fabio Capello down; Tevez ended up running round the Etihad with a winner's medal before managing to launch another controversy during the victory parade.





8) The continuing Steve Kean situation at Blackburn. Space is too short here to list all the details, but the whole Venky's takeover and running of the club has to be one of the weirdest of Premier League stories. Unlike some owners in the recent past, the people at Venky's are astute businesspeople and are not short of money. Their methods are unusual, to say the least, and their communication is poor, but their motivation remains the biggest mystery.





9) The comeback kids. Thierry Henry may have been stage-managed but Paul Scholes, amazingly, was better than anyone had dared imagine. Better than he was a year or two ago, in fact.





10) A London club winning the European Cup for the first time. All right, that hasn't happened yet, and it would probably be a mistake to underestimate Bayern Munich. I just happen to think this Chelsea side are capable of anything, however outrageous or far-fetched, and I wouldn't bet against this crazy season containing one more huge surprise.




Henry's winning goal in the cup on his return was fairytale stuff, and I also think that after beating Barca, many of the Chelsea squad know that this really is their last chance at Champs League glory, and they'll do Bayern.











Dumping Spuds out!