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Jimster said:


But strangely, City were in it all the way, even when down to 10. They created chances that, say, Aguerro, would have put away.




Fixed?

i agree that this Barca is definitely beatable if you can stop them scoring. The 2009 vintage were boring, but usually in complete control.
 
I think, deep down, I probably secretly believe my observation has a large impact on everything around me - it's just that football is the one where my involvement is most easily measured against impact.

As a "neutral" I would concur that Citeh were unjustly punished with that scoreline; despite the commentators' creaming over the forward three, Barca's backline looked extremely fragile and some better finishing by Citeh could have made this an interesting tie. Pep not playing Aguerro is an odd choice by the compulsive liplicker.

I actually think this is a pretty open CL this year, none of the teams seem to be at their peak right now.

Also, just had to mention that my local team are second in the Bundesliga. Nobody cares but I wanted to capture the moment while it lasted.
 
When Arse played Barca last year the team, despite being shambolic, were always in with a sniff.
While Barca are a bit suspect, I think they, Real and Atleti will again be the teams to beat.
 
Brexit looking less like car-crash tv and more like an approaching iceberg. Cameron didn't want it. Boris didn't want it. Theresa May didn't want it.
But push on ahead anyway, keep a stiff upper lip and all that.
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Duderonomy said:



skel said:

GOAT goal





I watched the extended highlights of that whole game a while back with #1 son. Some "History of Football" DVD he came by.

Damn thun, some ROBUST tackling going on. IIRC, aggro in the crowd too.

SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ht8qc_fifa-world-cup-1970-final-brazil-vs-italy-full-match_sport




 
One of the better City matches I've seen. That lad Bangagong can play a bit. Begs the question...


.. WHY CAN'T THEY PLAY LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME?
 
I saw the highlights and it looked like a great game.
This Barca seem to be cruising on rep and the brilliance of their attack. When they play a decent team or the attack isn't clicking they come undone.
Makes for better entertainment than Pep's version.

There's probably been books on the subject of just when a perennial champ is found out and the illusion is shattered - memorable ones for me were Liverpool losing to Arsenal at the end of the 80s (and igniting my Gooner love, 'cos fuck what Ferg said, he didn't knock them off their perch he was just the first to take advantage of the power vacuum (and I'm not talking Dyson)), Ferg leaving Man U and everybody rubbing their eyes to realise Cleverly was getting England caps, or, outside of football but even more dramatic, was Sampras (who'd been winning Wimbledons like it was as natural as a gag reflex to Country & Western) losing to a teenage Federer and never came close again, his former dominance shattered like a high jump record once the Fosbury flop had been invented.

I'm not sure if last night was that moment, and because of the ever changing personnel in modern football teams it's less pronounced, but it probably sent out a clear message that you just need to pressure this Barca effectively and you can get something. That control they once had though - it's gone.
 
They were unlucky not to benefit from the Stones clanger (they hit the bar) but then, Sterling was denied a Stone Wall™ penno earlier.
 
The Messi pen-not-pen was 50-50 and I bet the ref decided to even things up by ignoring it.
Apparently a dust-up in the tunnel after Arteta said to Messi "What are you waiting for? Go get changed idiot" :baller:
 
Messi's barnet doe. You'd think with his coin, he could do better than a nightschool-trainee bleach abomination.


 
I'd add Fury v Klitschko to the recent mix in that regard. Sitting in the overwhelmingly pro-Klitschko crowd I could actually feel the moment the realisation kicked in among the supporters that he really had nothing to trouble Fury. A strangely confused hush came over the crowd and not just because the fight itself was limp.

Props to Citeh, it was a really entertaining match - I think they deserved it and was good fun to see Barca capitulate. On a more cynical level, it does take something away from the magic of the occasion when the team that beats them bought in their ex-manager and some of the most expensive players in the world to do it. They're hardly traditional underdogs or even plucky challengers in the shade of Arsenal. To me it's more of a question of "what took so long?".

Additional props for the freeflowing similes in your post Duder.
 
Not wanting to clog up the Trump thread with any more Brexit talk, but I am interested Skel, in what you see happening next - your position on Brexit seems neither here nor there, but you have been vocal in condemning the Left/meeja/intellectual snob reaction, so I ask again, what should that section of society do if things pan out as they predicted?
And what do you think is going to happen?
Theresa May trying to invoke some medieval prerogative law makes me wonder why Corbyn doesn't try and get Trial By Combat up and running again. She has given the Remain camp their best material since the result with the hypocrisy of challenging the High Court ruling, and nothing that's happened since she's taken the job suggests she has the foggiest about how to handle this. Is it all a [Baldrick]cunning plan[/Baldrick] to make such a pig's ear of the job that an early General Election leads to calling the whole thing off?

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From day 1 I've been carrying around the theory that May is just the sacrificial lamb in all this, hence why others stepped aside.

She comes in, gets told to push everything through, alienates everyone and then gets dumped for the Bullingdon boys to ride back in to save the day.

Leaks like the one this morning which included specific jabs at May aren't accidental.
 
I distrust the views of those who profess to know what the future will be. At best, they are misguided or inexperienced in life. At worst they are arrogant, conceited and deluded egotists.
So I cannot opine on what will, won't, should, shouldn't.
Only on could and couldn't.

That said, there are a number of certainties.
Chiefly, the euro is fundamentally flawed, and ultimately doomed in its current guise.
Free and uncontrolled movement of people likewise. At some point, millions of people WILL turn up at another border.
Third, almost all people just want a better world, and to see progress in their lives and those of their children. Yes, even far right politicians.

It matters not whether experts or the qualified say their stuff, and whether it is correct or not.
What matters is ONLY how voters perceive the world. Right now, experts are viewed with suspicion, even hostility.
So: let's stop telling people how stupid they are to ignore the experts. It might make you feel clever and superior, but in the end the people didn't buy it.

In Brexit, what they bought was the idea that their lives could change for the better. Because no expert can sell the idea that what you got is good enough, or vote 'in' else things get worse.

And for those in the few days after the result, gloom and doom because stock markets tumbled in 'see I told you so' mode, well those same markets are now above pre-Brexit levels in most cases, but the doom-Sayers don't mention that, eh?
And either way, did you Duder feel any impact on your life? I'm guessing not.

Looking for the opportunity in these events has to be a more life-enhancing route than wallowing in the threat.

Generally, life has progressed in a three steps forward, two back kind of way throughout our evolution.
Sure, one day humans will totally fuck up on an existential basis with a nuke war or AI disaster or some such.
Bit neither Brexit nor Trump is of that stripe. So chill!



 
I agree that the Brexit and Trump results are the consequence of a lot of people being unhappy with the status quo and lobbing a brick through the window. "More of the same" has worn thin and they are looking for some quick fixes.

I still think they are morons because morons are cheering the loudest. It seems to validate a more [insert here]-ophobic mentality. And that's why I think these events are a step backwards. They lobbed the brick, but what concrete good ideas are they going to put in place?

I don't see any quick fixes when the banks run tings, but people sure do love deyselves the illusion of choice.

tl;dr : I WELCOME MR PEW-TEENS APOCALYPTIC EMBRACE
 
You may well think they are morons, but they won the democratic day.

It is not incumbent on them to say now how it will advance, it is incumbent on those who voted opposite to decide how to turn their opinion around.

So far, that seems to amount to saying the people are insert-phobic, or lame protests, or attempting to overturn democratic choices because only they know best.
None of these will work.
How difficult is this to understand?
Jeebus.
 
one day humans will totally fuck up on an existential basis with a nuke war or AI disaster or some such.
Bit neither Brexit nor Trump is of that stripe
Trump and his climate change denial crew may very well be that fuck up