What happened to Primo? Or us?

but i listen to what's dope. not what should be dope. second i always will love that 90ies era sound. and i would love it if hiphop could go back to this sound. to me, hiphop is dead since a couple of years.
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premier made his best beats after moment of truth
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otherwise some of y'all must have forgotten. ok, maybe it's just a matter of taste. but just take:

rakim - when i be on tha mic 1999
limp bizkit - n2gether now 1999
freddie foxx - a part of my life 2000
big l - intro/ eboncs remix 2000
ditc - thick 2000
lox - recognize 2000
mop - warriorz tracks 2000
common - 6th sense
nas - 2nd childhood 2001
royce 5 9 - boom 2001
ed og - sayin something 2001
craig david - 7 days remix 2002
non phixion - rock stars 2002

these are just a few of his tracks in this short period. and you can't say these tracks suck all. or that nobody wanted to hear them.
Most of those tracks are pretty boring.

Royce the 5'9"? Get serious, dude.
 
that limp bizkit track is one of the most vile pieces of garbage I've ever heard. I thought we were all agreed on this, but apparently I was wrong.
 
Phil, isn't the origin of "piff" uptown specifically purple city & dipset? EXPLAIN THAT ONE!
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uh oh...
I like a lot of dipshit... uh, I mean Dipset. "Somebody Gotta Die Tonight"??? Dog, that is THAT PIFF! The shit with the "Patches" sample? PIFF. "If Only You Believe" with the Jefferson Starship sample? You know how I love my 70's lite rock, mane... gotta be that piff! I am dead serious, not being sarcastic at all when I say that I am lovin' all of these songs , and quite a few others by Dipset as well as other currently relevant artists that you may think I do not like.


But I am dead serious when I say this too- it is STILL not "that real shit".
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Uh oh...
 
at the end of the day, it's all about taste. tastes are different.
to me, come clean never was my shit. but it's just taste.

but as i explained, if you "just like some premier tracks", stopped listening to him after moment of truth, it's no problem. but i think people with that attitude can't really judge the devolpement of him with statements like he never made a good one or kept doing the same after moment of truth.
there is a serious breakdown in both careers (premier, pete rock) and what's really interesting me is why. if some of y'all never liked him, it's ok.
but knowing every single track and saying "they always made the same boring shit" is disrespectful and simply not true.



>>Most of those tracks are pretty boring.
Royce the 5'9"? Get serious, dude.

ok, then give me some fire between 2000-2002. some outstanding tracks.
(but i think i don't like them. i'd call them boring garabge whatever.
as i said it's all about taste. but give me an example. i'm curious.
 
at the end of the day, it's all about taste. tastes are different.
to me, come clean never was my shit. but it's just taste.
if you're diggin the Limp Bizkit track over "come clean", you have some serious problems my man.
 
at the end of the day, it's all about taste. tastes are different.


to me, come clean never was my shit. but it's just taste.




if you're diggin the Limp Bizkit track over "come clean", you have some serious problems my man.




The thing with this record is tho.. Try to listen to the Instrumental and take away all ref. to Limp dick and it's a pretty good track.





Double up on it and it's nice!





I can't stand the vocals on it.Lay somethin' ovah it and it's wicked staRR...
 
at the end of the day, it's all about taste. tastes are different.
to me, come clean never was my shit. but it's just taste.
if you're diggin the Limp Bizkit track over "come clean", you have some serious problems my man.
yeah, that borders on a dysfunction
 
The thing with this record is tho.. Try to listen to the Instrumental and take away all ref. to Limp dick and it's a pretty good track.
of course i'm talking about the instrumentals/beats. although premier managed to carry some wack mc's in his career.
 
ok, then give me some fire between 2000-2002. some outstanding tracks.
(but i think i don't like them. i'd call them boring garabge whatever.
as i said it's all about taste. but give me an example. i'm curious.
Yup, his Devin the Dude track (which we've already heard your thoughts on) is definitely one of his best from the past 5+ years... I'd say "Devil's Pie" is up there too
 
ok, then give me some fire between 2000-2002. some outstanding tracks.
(but i think i don't like them. i'd call them boring garabge whatever.
as i said it's all about taste. but give me an example. i'm curious.
Yup, his Devin the Dude track (which we've already heard your thoughts on) is definitely one of his best from the past 5+ years... I'd say "Devil's Pie" is up there too
That track actually is almost five years old though; that album was released in fall of '02, but I remember reading reviews of it that mentioned "Doobie Ashtray" as much as a year in advance of when it was ultimately released.
 
that doobie ashtray track isn't that bad. but again: one keyboard bassline, a drumset. that's it. i mean timbo or the neptunes made better stuff out of this combination...just joking. but for real, when i hear premo doing this formula i think he tries something that others did better. to me, it's simply not him.

guru - hustlin daze , that was another one that got me. but it's all taste...
 
Royce the 5'9"? Get serious, dude.

Actually this track is bananas and pretty much hit with every DJ... Did it do anything as far as sales? Nah, but as far as the general consensus? Track was on point... I remember this gettting dropped in pretty much every mix show from NC to DC to NYC to LA... But then again I was travelling around then so what would I know.

That was probably Premier's most stand out track in a long time though. I like alot of the other stuff he has done, but its been no "Come Clean" or "Positivity" or "Take it Personal" or "FALA" or "the Planet" or the whole group home album, but still diggin the style.
 
Royce the 5'9"? Get serious, dude.

Actually this track is bananas and pretty much hit with every DJ... Did it do anything as far as sales? Nah, but as far as the general consensus? Track was on point... I remember this gettting dropped in pretty much every mix show from NC to DC to NYC to LA... But then again I was travelling around then so what would I know.

That was probably Premier's most stand out track in a long time though. I like alot of the other stuff he has done, but its been no "Come Clean" or "Positivity" or "Take it Personal" or "FALA" or "the Planet" or the whole group home album, but still diggin the style.
The crowds always jumped whenever I dropped that song.
 
Don't mind faux_rillz. He hates on stuff like Royce Da 5'9" to make up for the fact that he used to buy Mr. Complex 12"s. Over-compensation is an addiction.





























I predict a retaliatory remark quoting my liking of the Macy Gray beat.

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rakim - when i be on tha mic 1999
limp bizkit - n2gether now 1999
freddie foxx - a part of my life 2000
big l - intro/ eboncs remix 2000
ditc - thick 2000
lox - recognize 2000
mop - warriorz tracks 2000
common - 6th sense
nas - 2nd childhood 2001
royce 5 9 - boom 2001
ed og - sayin something 2001
craig david - 7 days remix 2002
non phixion - rock stars 2002
Compared to his early material, the stuff above is kinda
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for me. Its not that he can't make good music anymore. It's just that it all looks so small compared to his past accomplishments. I mean, the dude helped forge a whole genre of music & inspired people the world over. What's he going to do for an encore?