WHEN DOES THE NEW SEASON OF WIRE START?
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Did I ever tell you guys that I sat in on the set a couple of months ago? A friend of mine wrote one of next season's episodes.
The sets are fucking incredible. I got to walk around the police station, homicide unit, mayor's office, etc. The level of detail is mindblowing.
The scene I watched was a really short one, maybe a minute long. Pretty amazing to see how it's done though.. got to meet McNulty, Kima and Bunk. Now what I really want to do is watch an outdoor scene..
The sets are fucking incredible. I got to walk around the police station, homicide unit, mayor's office, etc. The level of detail is mindblowing.
The scene I watched was a really short one, maybe a minute long. Pretty amazing to see how it's done though.. got to meet McNulty, Kima and Bunk. Now what I really want to do is watch an outdoor scene..
i still have four more episodes to go in season 4 so i had to keep myself from reading through this thread, but just wanted to let you dudes know season 5 was gonna air this fall but someone at hbeeoh said it got pushed to early '08.
bonus: i spotted avon at the arclight on sunday. i wasn't going to say anything but he ended up jumping in the elevator i was in so i had to give due props. that's it. i'll be checking in after i'm done with season 4.
oh, and SEASON TWO RULEZ
they really expanded the scope of the show in two. i remember watching a few episodes in and being blwon away at how ambitious the show was with all the different storylines. of course, they pulled it all together flawlessly. in my opinion 2 stands up with any other season of the wire.
bonus: i spotted avon at the arclight on sunday. i wasn't going to say anything but he ended up jumping in the elevator i was in so i had to give due props. that's it. i'll be checking in after i'm done with season 4.
oh, and SEASON TWO RULEZ
they really expanded the scope of the show in two. i remember watching a few episodes in and being blwon away at how ambitious the show was with all the different storylines. of course, they pulled it all together flawlessly. in my opinion 2 stands up with any other season of the wire.
No. No, no, no, no, nonononononono. No.
Season 2 is the shit. If you're more fascinated by the dynamic between The Detail and The Barksdale Crew, then you might find it less compelling at first, but it's worth sticking with. You might find that certain aspects of Season 3 don't make as much sense as they would if you'd seen Season 2 either. Furthermore, skip Season 2 and you miss one of the greatest Wire moments; the exchanges between Levy and Omar at Bird's trial.
Incidentally, there's a monthly magazine over here called The Word which did a big feature on The Wire in their August issue. FX, the channel which carries it in the UK, is about to re-run the entire thing from the end of July, so The Word ran a big piece called "Why You Must Watch 'The Wire'". I happen to know a couple of the associate editors of the mag, and they knew I'd been watching it since it first started showing over here, so I get quoted in the piece as one of The Wire's "ferociously committed" and "evangelical" fans.
Not yet, no. It's worth considering that we're expected to assume that nobody is completely clean, but as Daniels rises, I can imagine a plot thread in Season 5 where the press does an expose on his past, possibly with the complicity of rivals like Rawls or Burrell.
I think it's more about Mikey having been molested by him (or another older male) in the past, and subsequently being aware that little mans is at risk. There's all kinds of signals pointing to it, most notably the way Mikey feels uncomfortable being alone in the car with Cutty, and the wordless exchange between Mikey and Chris when Mikey asks him to whack the guy, which suggests that Chris has been there too. The scene where Chris literally beats the guy to a pulp is one of the most shocking scenes of violence I've ever seen on the screen.
I thought he was just another ambitious politician at first, and there's still traces of that at points during his campaign, but he seems to become increasingly more troubled by this, and the ambition is replaced by something closer to actual integrity. The later scenes, after Royce concedes and Carcetti gets to work as the mayor elect, are beautiful studies in the way one kind of political ambition can so often be thwarted by another altogether different kind, and one that uses bureaucracy almost as a weapon.
Not yet, no. It's worth considering that we're expected to assume that nobody is completely clean, but as Daniels rises, I can imagine a plot thread in Season 5 where the press does an expose on his past, possibly with the complicity of rivals like Rawls or Burrell.
I think it's more about Mikey having been molested by him (or another older male) in the past, and subsequently being aware that little mans is at risk. There's all kinds of signals pointing to it, most notably the way Mikey feels uncomfortable being alone in the car with Cutty, and the wordless exchange between Mikey and Chris when Mikey asks him to whack the guy, which suggests that Chris has been there too. The scene where Chris literally beats the guy to a pulp is one of the most shocking scenes of violence I've ever seen on the screen.
I thought he was just another ambitious politician at first, and there's still traces of that at points during his campaign, but he seems to become increasingly more troubled by this, and the ambition is replaced by something closer to actual integrity. The later scenes, after Royce concedes and Carcetti gets to work as the mayor elect, are beautiful studies in the way one kind of political ambition can so often be thwarted by another altogether different kind, and one that uses bureaucracy almost as a weapon.
i was more sympathetic to royce after the whole hamsterdam thing. but carcetti developed a real good bullshit detector and that dude who was his campaign advisor/manager was the fuckin man. royce's office "passing of the baton" was graceful too, although he should have told carcetti after carcetti sat in the mayoral chair, "boy, you wouldnt believe how much head i got in that there chair."
yeah, chris definitely looked like he was exorcising some demons on mikeys pop. molested as a child = marlo's assassin later in life...natural progression?
i want to see some of snoop's girlfriends in season 5
Omar vs.Bird & LEvy is the illest. "i shot him in the hind quarters"
I think it's more about Mikey having been molested by him (or another older male) in the past, and subsequently being aware that little mans is at risk. There's all kinds of signals pointing to it, most notably the way Mikey feels uncomfortable being alone in the car with Cutty, and the wordless exchange between Mikey and Chris when Mikey asks him to whack the guy, which suggests that Chris has been there too. The scene where Chris literally beats the guy to a pulp is one of the most shocking scenes of violence I've ever seen on the screen.
Co-sign on all that.
I am holding out on the last episode of Season 4 - I just can't do it - it will all be over then and I'm waiting FOREVER for Season 5.
Also co-sign on how good Season 2 is, Shakespearean! And nothing to cough at, it is a beautifully shot season, too, the Harbour and waterfront scenes look amazing to me.
Just to cosign on other people: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SKIPPABLE" WIRE SEASON.
Does. Not. Exist.
And in any case, you'd be missing a shit load of character and story development. Regardless, you will NOT regret watching Season 2.
Saying there is ANYTHING wrong with Season 2 of "The Wire" is downright short-sighted. They flipped it. They can do the streets, they can do some other shit.
Soulhawk, I think you'll dig it just fine. Don't miss.
Soulhawk, I think you'll dig it just fine. Don't miss.
I think this was mentioned here already, but Clark Johnson is going to have a role in Season 5 and also direct the series finale, which is fitting since he directed the first one. Meldrick from H:LOTS.
If you need something to watch while waiting for the Wire, and you never watched H:LOTS, get those DVDS. That's "Homicide: Life on the Streets", former NBC ensemble crime drama.
If you need something to watch while waiting for the Wire, and you never watched H:LOTS, get those DVDS. That's "Homicide: Life on the Streets", former NBC ensemble crime drama.
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My only very small complaint about Season Four is the lack of sexy scenes, cause The Wire even does those most excellently - with heat and humour and showing the right amount of bits of both men and women. And then, it was good that music was a little more upfront - BMore club music and The Meters during poker. The whole Move On Up seqeunce could have been a cheesey disaster, but they pulled it off.
My only very small complaint about Season Four is the lack of sexy scenes, cause The Wire even does those most excellently - with heat and humour and showing the right amount of bits of both men and women. And then, it was good that music was a little more upfront - BMore club music and The Meters during poker. The whole Move On Up seqeunce could have been a cheesey disaster, but they pulled it off.
Just to cosign on other people: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SKIPPABLE" WIRE SEASON.
Does. Not. Exist.
And in any case, you'd be missing a shit load of character and story development. Regardless, you will NOT regret watching Season 2.
Plus, you'll miss all of the info on the greek and spiros who are definitely making an appearance in season 5, given Marlo's ambition.
That's intersting. Those scenes usually catch me pleasantly off guard, but it's actually really nice to watch a show that doesn't rely on flashes of flesh to keep people tuned in. I could do with another Kima and GF joint and I'll take another Rhonda Pearlman while they're at it!
That's intersting. Those scenes usually catch me pleasantly off guard, but it's actually really nice to watch a show that doesn't rely on flashes of flesh to keep people tuned in. I could do with another Kima and GF joint and I'll take another Rhonda Pearlman while they're at it!
since this thread is now veering dangerously close to a sexiest-people-on-the-Wire thread, fuckit I'ma take it there!
Give me the City Council president (the one trying to thwart Carcetti 'casue she felt she was next in line for mayor) and the school board inspector (the one who comes in and hates on Colvin's alternative class) in an....encounter?
okay, before yall get on your "who i want to see boning" tangent,
would be cool to get more background on Butchie, omar's adviser.
cool character
what up drew!
would be cool to get more background on Butchie, omar's adviser.
cool character
what up drew!
There's a bunch of reasons, I think.
Most obvious one first; there appears to be a perception, at least in the US, that, because of the predominantly black cast, it's a "black" show and therefore it's presumed to have a limited appeal to a white audience. Oz suffered from this to an extent as well.
Some of the dialogue requires a bit more attention than viewers (particularly white viewers) may be used to, and that's generally true of the show as a whole. The pacing and the story arc aren't really like those of popular shows like The Sopranos, Lost, CSI or 24. There isn't a nice, pat conclusion at the end of each episode, and plenty of loose ends are left hanging from season to season.
Also, as far as the Sopranos is concerned, a lot of people are gonna be up on the conceits, signifiers and iconography of the gangster/mob genre, and the Sopranos openly acknowledges this throughout. Far easier for something with that kind of familiarity to find an audience. But there really is nothing like The Wire on TV anywhere, and all credit to HBO for sticking with it, letting Simon do it the way he wanted to do it, and letting it find an audience naturally. No question it would have been cancelled before the end of Season 1 if it were on a network.
