50 Albums That Changed Music

am I the only one that finds Raw Power to be pretty
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compared to the first two Stooges albums?

You are not.
This is interesting. Much as I love the first two albums (esp. "Fun House"), "Raw Power" is still probably my favourite Stooges record. I remember hearing it a couple of times as a kid, but I never actually owned it until 1977, when it was reissued in the UK in the wake of the whole punk thing. Although I liked it at the time, I used to hate the way it was recorded. The rhythm section sounded as if they were playing at the end of an alley across the street from the studio, and it seemed as if the whole record had been mixed by someone wearing handcuffs. When it was reissued on CD in 1997 though, it was marketed as an authorised (by Iggy) remix. A few years ago, someone told me that what it was in reality, was a re-EQ'ed version taken from the ????? two-track master - apparently, the original multi-track had been irreparably damaged, and the two-track was all they had left to work with, so we'll never hear a true remixed/remastered version. Nevertheless, the 1997 CD version is fucking blazing - the whole thing leaps out and smacks you in the grill in a way the original never did. Most people I know prefer the lo-fi feel of the o.g., but for me, the '97 version is much closer to how I always wanted to hear it.
Yeah, the "Bowie free" version is like a completely different record.
 
What I meant was "Thriller" is like "Off The Wall" artistically - maybe actually failing to reach that bar - but got to break Jacko as a megastar thanks to Van Halen.

In perhaps the same way [massive generalisation] "Rap" was considered "Underground" until "Walk This Way".

Say it ain't so.
 
What I meant was "Thriller" is like "Off The Wall" artistically - maybe actually failing to reach that bar - but got to break Jacko as a megastar thanks to Van Halen.

In perhaps the same way [massive generalisation] "Rap" was considered "Underground" until "Walk This Way".

Say it ain't so.
It ain't so...if for no other reason than Billie Jean broke before Beat It.

I remember white people being conscious that Eddie Van Halen soloed on Beat It, but that was hardly the reason why Michael attained superstardom with Thriller. Chronoligically I think I recall The Girl is Mine being on the radio before Beat It as well...so if you really wanted to press the issue you might want to cite Paul McCartney instead of Eddie Van Halen. But that would be just as inaccurate for Thriller was simply undeniable to anyone regardless of race.

Edit: I went ahead and looked up dates for you:

1982
November
The Girl Is Mine (With Paul McCartney)

1983
January
Billie Jean

1983
March
Beat It
 
What I meant was "Thriller" is like "Off The Wall" artistically - maybe actually failing to reach that bar - but got to break Jacko as a megastar thanks to Van Halen.

In perhaps the same way [massive generalisation] "Rap" was considered "Underground" until "Walk This Way".

Say it ain't so.
It ain't so...if for no other reason than Billie Jean broke before Beat It.

I remember white people being conscious that Eddie Van Halen soloed on Beat It, but that was hardly the reason why Michael attained superstardom with Thriller. Chronoligically I think I recall The Girl is Mine being on the radio before Beat It as well...so if you really wanted to press the issue you might want to cite Paul McCartney instead of Eddie Van Halen. But that would be just as inaccurate for Thriller was simply undeniable to anyone regardless of race.

Edit: I went ahead and looked up dates for you:

1982
November
The Girl Is Mine (With Paul McCartney)

1983
January
Billie Jean

1983
March
Beat It

Fair enough.
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I just remember hell hype around VH at the time. I agree with it being undeniable to anyone regardless of race too - but I would say the same about "Off The Wall" even moreso, which although it sold well, failed to cross over to the extent of, well, being parodied by Weird Al Jankovic.
 
Speaking of Weird Al, his new single is going to be called....




"White and Nerdy" and it is a parody of "Ridin Dirty"
 
I remember white people being conscious that Eddie Van Halen soloed on Beat It, but that was hardly the reason why Michael attained superstardom with Thriller.
I am saying--crediting the breakout success of Thriller to Eddie Van Halen is bizarre.

I didn't even know he played on it until this thread.
 
I am saying--crediting the breakout success of Thriller to Eddie Van Halen is bizarre.

I didn't even know he played on it until this thread.

Disconnected from the Hot Licks!

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Seriously, though: the first time I heard "Beat It" on the radio, the DJ actually introduced it as "the new song by Michael Jackson and Eddie Van Halen." But I don't think that EVH had shit to do with that album being as huge as it is, beyond the fact that he laced that song with good guitar (no Eruption).
 
British music journalism is so full of bullshit and pretention not to mention that lists like are generally pointless because they always reflect the bandwagon that every doche bags is jumping on.

SCREW THE BRITISH & THEIR COMPULSIVE MUSIC LISTENIN'



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I remember white people being conscious that Eddie Van Halen soloed on Beat It, but that was hardly the reason why Michael attained superstardom with Thriller.
I am saying--crediting the breakout success of Thriller to Eddie Van Halen is bizarre.

I didn't even know he played on it until this thread.

yeah me neither. speaking as a white dude who grew up around a lot of other white dudes in the 80s, everyone I know had that album, and it definitely wasn't because of Eddie Van Halen or Paul McCartney.
 
Speaking of Weird Al, his new single is going to be called....




"White and Nerdy" and it is a parody of "Ridin Dirty"
If this were true, it would be really fucking funny.
 
Speaking of Weird Al, his new single is going to be called....




"White and Nerdy" and it is a parody of "Ridin Dirty"
If this were true, it would be really fucking funny. It is quite true.
 
i hope so...Weird Al is due for a comeback. "Polka Your Eyes Out" came up on my ipod today and I got to thinking about him.
 
as sweet as that wire list is what the title implies is far less tounge in cheek than it should be. i mean, sure the dead c begat pavement and sebadoh, but the only people that really care are, well, people that read wire i guess.

plus i'd put day of niagara instead of four violins. and throw on 1/2 gentlemen not beasts.