Breaking Bad

Great episode. I kind of agree on the "how'd he know everyone would drink it" complaint.





Other quibble: walt jr... Its the morning of your 16th birthday, no need to actually take the driving exam, just go ahead and start driving. Or can you get your license at 15 in NM?
 
think of what we forgave the wire on its 5th season


so breaking bad is still killing it


the gus flashbacks don't go back that far in terms of episodes until he was introduced


walt's trip to memory lane was acted out instead of replayed (as usual recently) and it took us back to his season 1 motives


the show is incredible in the way it ties everyone's actions together from the beginning
 
When we first see Don Eladio in the first flashback, he gets pissed off that the staff didn't immediately serve his guests drinks, even when he was about to kill one of them. Don E is srs about his boozing.
 
DocMcCoy said:keithvanhorn said:





i thought it was a horrible episode, up until the last scene, when it became entertaining but unbelievable. How did he know ALL of them would drink the Tequila, let alone any of them?




Because Gus has shown himself throughout as being meticulous in everything he does, as well as having a startling ability for staying a step ahead of his adversaries.





Skylar has always been a drain on the show, but this distraction with her former employer's IRS debts is boring and an annoying sub-plot that nobody cares about.




Skylar's been great this season. She seemed to genuinely believe she could redeem Walt until she saw how much money was involved. And now she's realised the wider implications of her involvement in Ted's tax fraud, it's dawned on her exactly what's at risk.







Gus is meticulous but that doesn't make him clairvoyant.





You don't have to explain to me why Skylar is worried about Ted's tax fraud. That has nothing to do with my point; which is that it's a boring sub-plot. Nobody is tuning into Breaking Bad to find out how the whole Ted situation works out, or at least I hope not.
 
SoulOnIce said:Grandfather said:LOL, how did i know KVH would hate every episode...




Why is that? i started this thread because it's my favorite tv drama. Someone put me on to Suits (USA network), which is surprisingly good.
 
I agree, Suits was surprisingly good, I got really hooked on it and tried to make everyone else watch it, without much success. I was pretty annoyed when they said it would be a year before it comes back on. I hope I still care by then.





I know you don't "hate" every episode of BB but you are the MOST nitpicking motherfucker of a TV watcher, ever. you remind me of friends who can't just relax and watch a movie or TV show, everything has to be be just right and fit just perfectly or they/you will bitch. Breaking Bad is so much better than most TV it just seems silly to pick away at whatever flaws you can turn up in every episode.
 
I have issues with the depiction of a Gas Chromatograph. A big digital display on the front giving % purity is not how they typically operate. They're usually better about chemistry details.





That said, super bad assed episode. My favorite part is when Walt calls Walter Jr. "Jesse".
 
keithvanhorn said:DocMcCoy said:keithvanhorn said:





i thought it was a horrible episode, up until the last scene, when it became entertaining but unbelievable. How did he know ALL of them would drink the Tequila, let alone any of them?




Because Gus has shown himself throughout as being meticulous in everything he does, as well as having a startling ability for staying a step ahead of his adversaries.





Skylar has always been a drain on the show, but this distraction with her former employer's IRS debts is boring and an annoying sub-plot that nobody cares about.




Skylar's been great this season. She seemed to genuinely believe she could redeem Walt until she saw how much money was involved. And now she's realised the wider implications of her involvement in Ted's tax fraud, it's dawned on her exactly what's at risk.







Gus is meticulous but that doesn't make him clairvoyant.





You don't have to explain to me why Skylar is worried about Ted's tax fraud. That has nothing to do with my point; which is that it's a boring sub-plot. Nobody is tuning into Breaking Bad to find out how the whole Ted situation works out, or at least I hope not.




Maybe I should have put it another way; Gus has hitherto shown a remarkable ability to predict what his adversaries are likely to do, and apart from the odd isolated instance, such as Walt interfering with his plan to whack Jesse at the end of season 3, he's usually right. In other words, he knows his enemy. The only thing about the tequila incident that could have seemed out of character for Gus was its audaciousness. But even that was justifiable in the context of how the story is developing; Gus' business is under threat, so he has to take a significant risk to try and protect it. The "Terminator shit" scene in the preceding episode showed that he has the balls to go all-in if necessary.





I agree that nobody's tuning in to see how the whole Ted situation works out, but if you can't see why this sudden development may be hugely significant to the outcome of the whole thing (the possibility of Skylar, and by extension Walt, becoming involved in an IRS investigation, along with the implications that has for the both of them) I can only assume - and there's no way of saying this without seeming patronising - you're not too familiar with the way in which TV drama sometimes works. I mean, it's pretty obvious, really. It wasn't the piles of dead bodies that led to Al Capone being convicted, after all.
 
Great episode, eventhough the tequila incident was a bit of a stretch. Loved how Jesse went gangster on everybody and the videogame shooter moment was classic. FPS saved my life style! Also, this has occurred to me before - Walt Jr is arguably the best actor in the cast. Dude is incredible.
 
pcmr said:think of what we forgave the wire on its 5th season


so breaking bad is still killing it







i agree. i think it can be easily accepted that Gus put all his cards on the table hoping everyone would have a drink. like Mike said, they were either all leaving or none of them, so i think Gus weighed the implications going in.





jesse was amazing in this episode. i think alot of his scenes could have went really cheeseball, really fast, but he held it all together and made it feel realistic.





loved the fact that we don't even see walter until halfway into the episode.





i am done with skylar. more walt jr.





this may be the best BB episode yet... imo
 
dollar_bin said:I have issues with the depiction of a Gas Chromatograph. A big digital display on the front giving % purity is not how they typically operate.




But that was the first 96 Jesse ever got!
 
I guess 96% is pure enough for the cartel but it still isn't as good as Walter's.


96 is what Gale guaranteed to Gus but he then said that Walters meth was 99% pure


and that those 3% would make a huge difference.
 
what a rewarding episode. i love seeing jesse step up and exceed everyone's low expectations of him. it also appears that he has beat some sense (and guilt) back into Walt.





i really hope the next episode follows through and shows a continuation of their escape out of mexico. it would be really crummy if it started off with them back in ABQ, but I can understand that it's TV and they probably don't really have a budget for drawn out action-filled cat & mouse chase scenes
 
hogginthefogg said:dollar_bin said:I have issues with the depiction of a Gas Chromatograph. A big digital display on the front giving % purity is not how they typically operate.




But that was the first 96 Jesse ever got!




I loved that metaphor. He was always a low performer in school and as capt cook. I loved how Gus and Mike looked at him like proud parents and I am also relieved that they weren't playing the nurture card purely as a tactic to influence Jesse
 
edith head said:what a rewarding episode. i love seeing jesse step up and exceeding everyone's low expectations of him. it also appears that he has beat some sense (and guilt) back into Walt.





i really hope the next episode follows through and shows a continuation of their escape out of mexico. it would be really crummy if it started off with them back in ABQ, but I can understand that it's TV and they probably don't really have a budget for drawn out action-filled cat & mouse chase scenes




Oh, I would be very surprised if they skipped all the details of them getting out of Mexico. They did get there by a private plane of the cartel, after all, so leaving out how they got back would be a pretty big hole. I am really looking forward to see how things go in the last three episodes. I really have no idea at this point.
 
It made me shudder; I felt like I was looking at Walt in his own grave. Great ep, super creepy ending.
 
4 seasons in and it's still one of the best shows on tv.





Ending was crazy...
 
ladyday said:It made me shudder; I felt like I was looking at Walt in his own grave. Great ep, super creepy ending.

YES. The camera panning out was like watching him get buried.


Great end to the episode.





Kafkaesque even.