Can we get a consensus on Phish?
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<font class="post"1<b,121<b,121<b,121NOBODY is laughing on their way to the bank anymore....
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<font class="post"1'<b,121<b,121RITE HEER GUYZ!!! I wonce went with my frend Lance to a FISCH concert bcuz hE sed it wuz gunna be just lief a RAVE outsied!!! He LYED 2 me GUYZ! oK so fer sure ther wer ppl in big pants and ppl twrling around n dancing reel good and i cant lye there wer sum reellly REEALLY good drugs but FISCH FUKKKIN SUCKED MAN! those guyz have no BREAKZ!!! ZEERO BREAKZ AT ALL!!!!! Sum1 needs 2 teech them all about tha BREAKZ becuz tha BREAKZ are the FOUNDASHIN of MUSIC FOR REEL GUYZ!!! So who is tha othr group tha DEAD HEADS that u wer talkin about??? SOme1 in tha thred said they got BREAKZ!!?!?!? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badassbuddy_com-drummer2.gif" alt="" /1 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badassbuddy_com-drummer2.gif" alt="" /1
<font class="small"1Quote:</font1<h,121<b,121I mean, who else among us could even understand the meaning of Phish? <b,121<b,121<h,121[/quote]<font class="post"1<b,121I was living in the Philly area at the time but traveled around on their tours.<b,121I've seen them live over 30 times. Those were my high school years, mid to late 90s. I did mix it up with at least as many Roots shows and raves and local funk & soul events. I definitely didn't have the blinders on that a lot of people in that scene did.<b,121<b,121I haven't intentionally listened to them in years but those were great times - hitchhiking around, living super-meagerly.
<font class="post"1<b,121Rick, the road to disco is long and dangerous. I'm glad the patchwork pant people let you go. Cosign on those boring roots shows in the 90's. I don't even know how many times I heard them in the background while I was in some hippies tent, in a parking lot trying to score mushrooms ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/595.gif" alt="" /1
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<font class="post"1<b,121<b,121I can own up to the latter thread. I think I have three or four Elton John records on the shelf. My bad. Definitely prime targets for a purge, indeed. Also have two Phish CDs; an ex-girlfriend left them at my house and I have honestly considered tracking her down to give them back, though she's a dominatrix now and, while probably a glutton for punishment, there is a limit. Here's the crazyiest thing about it: On one of the CDs, Phish covers "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It." Now I know we can all imagine how terrible Phish is when playing their own music, but they take that swill to new heights covering some late-period Fresh Prince.
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<font class="post"1<b,121<b,121at the beginning of the 2000's, i was working in a music library at a college<b,121<b,121at this point, white rock was considered dead in the water (this was just before the strokes and the white stripes showed up)...the charts were mainly about hip-hop and other kinds of dance music. <b,121<b,121the music tastes of the students - black, white, Latin, Asian - reflected this.<b,121<b,121seemed like about the only white-guy rock music the college crowd had time for, in that pre-white stripes era, were the jam bands<b,121<b,121these were likely the same kids Kala was referring to who got on the Deadhead train right around the time that Jerry Garcia passed
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<font class="post"1<b,121<b,121yeah, but she left them there, you didnt get them for yourself<b,121<b,121if its something that (a) belongs to somebody else and (b) isnt my kind of music, there is no way in hell I'd file it with ***The Collection***
As an Oregonian and who went to college near Vermont I am uniquely qualified to comment on Phish's strengths and weaknesses. THe verdict: Phish sucks ballz. I actually went to one of the first Phish shows outside of Vermont. They played in the Red Barn at Hampshire College in Dec. 1988. Of course the show was a benefit for NORML (National Org to Reform Marijuana Laws). Shit was intensely boring (though that David Bowie song was kind of funny). But the hippies went wild for the next few weeks. Talkinbout "those guys are unbelievable musicians". To which I always responded, "What about the fact that their music sucks?" and this is from a big Dead fan.<b,121<b,121A few years later they played the gym at Hampshire, by then things had changed and the hordes descended upon campus, sleeping in rugs and wiping out all the Ben and Jerry's at the student store. Thank god it rained the day after, washing the smell away. I saw them again when they played at UMass Spring Fling 92 (I was there to see the Beastie Boys and Fishbone). I just kept thinking about Spinal Tap and the whole Jazz Odyssey scene cause that's what it sounded like to me.
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<font class="post"1<b,121<b,121I'm friends with the guys in Panic and count myself as a fan. My wife isn't completely convinced though. <b,121<b,121As far as Phish goes I never got it. I went to over 50 Dead shows and still listen to the occasional live Dead tape/CD. I saw exactly one Phish show and was bored to tears. If I was 15 years younger and had grown up without Dead tours would I have been into Phish? Unlikely.
I always thought that the Grateful Dead/Phish comparisons were unfair, thanks to the trustafarian, hop in the VW and travel around getting high and selling peanut butter sandwiches crowd.<b,121<b,121Flies like ice cream AND dogshit, but (hopefully) you'd only ever eat the first one...
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<font class="post"1<b,121I'm not a fan of either but the Dead started a genre/movement, and did it well with talent and creativity. Then came douches like Phish, who just want to wank on stage and now the Crap Matthews Band who wants to wank on stage AND get played on the radio. My brother keeps telling me, "I think you'd like Dave Matthews, they're really good musicians." Blah, for me, I'd rather listen to shitty musicians make good music than good musicians make terrible music.
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