Carpetbaggeurings

[KidK]

Dozens of trendy bloggers hail The Clipse, get shot down as silly racist carpetbagging hipsters.Dozens of trendy bloggers hail Devin the Dude...not a word of complaint.Now I'm as much of a Devin fan as the next man, but I find this pretty amusing.::waits to see what happens when the UGK bandwagon rolls along come april::

 

[noz]

I too hate when people support good music.

 

[Soulhawk]

I too hate when people support good music.

apparently if people support good music for the wrong reasons it's bad.

 

[deej]

Devin the Dude >>>>>>> The Clipse

Also bloggers have been all over Devin for a long time. He has a hipster appeal, which is fine. He's also awesome. And so far most of the people talking about his music sound like they actually heard the music before they started talking about it.

 

[slush]

you guys live in an interesting world of fantasy

that said, theres nobody I'd rather work with than devin

 

[faux_rillz]

you guys live in an interesting world of fantasy

that said, theres nobody I'd rather work with than devin

You live in an interesting world of fantasy.

 

[deej]

zing!

 

[HarveyCanal]

Carpetbaggeurry isn't cultural outsiders publicly liking regional artists. That's something we should all want.

Carpetbaggeurry is an outsider applying an outsider perspective to a regional scene as if that scene is actually defined by that outsider perspective. It's also about an outsider ineffectively doing a job best fit for locals.

 

[slush]

zing!

faux - you're still on ignore. I'm sure it was really funny though. probably very biting, and sarcastic! and smart! and funny!

 

[deej]

Carpetbaggeurry isn't cultural outsiders publicly liking regional artists. That's something we should all want.

Carpetbaggeurry is an outsider applying an outsider perspective to a regional scene as if that scene is actually defined by that outsider perspective. It's also about an outsider ineffectively doing a job best fit for locals.

zzzzzz

 

[HarveyCanal]

 

[DocMcCoy]

Carpetbaggeurry is an outsider applying an outsider perspective to a regional scene as if that scene is actually defined by that outsider perspective. It's also about an outsider ineffectively doing a job best fit for locals.

Isn't this what a lot of music critics have always done anyway? Find the angle first, then write the story to fit the angle? This is how you end up with meaningless terms like "folktronica", "hardstep" and "nu-rave".

I'm sure it must be immensely frustrating for artists who, when dealing with the media, spend half their time addressing misconceptions about themselves, their work, or whatever "scene" they may have sprung from, but given the choice between flaky coverage like that or no coverage at all, most of 'em would probably plump for the former. I suppose that if people were a little more able to make up their mind about whether or not they like music simply from listening to it instead of reading about it, the opportunities for carpetbaggeury would be significantly curtailed. On the other hand, many people prefer their opinion to be an informed one, which is where music critics come in. Unfortunately, the blogalypse has given every other gobshite with a Wordpress account both the idea that they can be the next Lester Bangs and the means with which to prove it (or not), so the volume of bad music writing has grown exponentially. Obviously, this last point does not apply to anyone in the JournoStrut contingent, whether they have a Wordpress account or not.

 

[deej]

HarveyCanal's problem is that he is unwilling to interrogate his own biases and that clearly affects his own posts. He is under the delusion that there is a CORRECT LOCAL PERSPECTIVE and an INCORRECT OUTSIDER PERSPECTIVE and not the truth, which is that there are as many perspectives as there are listeners. As an 'outsider,' I'm interested in hearing what his opinion is - not what his impression of what a REAL TEXAS HEADZ opinion is.

I do agree with a lot of what he says in the sense that INFORMED writing is extremely important and certain perspectives need to become a part of the discourse, especially in the internet age there is no excuse for lazy fact-checking, and when many people never examine the received wisdom that as "outsiders" they might harbor about a certain locale and its music.

But he's just as guilty of this silliness in some ways and is unwilling to examine his own received wisdom. I'm not gonna argue with what the dude says about houston rap - obviously there's no question he knows more than i do and probably more than i ever will. But this location-centric heirarchy he's created seems to sacrifice some perspective for this almost fascistic geographic orthodoxy.

 

[noz]

Unfortunately, the blogalypse has given every other gobshite with a Wordpress account both the idea that they can be the next Lester Bangs and the means with which to prove it (or not), so the volume of bad music writing has grown exponentially. Obviously, this last point does not apply to anyone in the JournoStrut contingent, whether they have a Wordpress account or not.

Well yeah, but consider the alternative. It's possible that a lot of these regional bubbles would still be ignored completely on a national level had it not been for the rise of internet (pseudo)journalists. It wasn't like the source, was doing features on screw tapes or mob music in the 90s, let alone the new york times.

 

[HAZ]

The articles might be missing some info, but they spell the artists names right & that's the main thing. Otherwise, you just have a random rap act with a larger, localized fan base.

 

[DocMcCoy]

Unfortunately, the blogalypse has given every other gobshite with a Wordpress account both the idea that they can be the next Lester Bangs and the means with which to prove it (or not), so the volume of bad music writing has grown exponentially. Obviously, this last point does not apply to anyone in the JournoStrut contingent, whether they have a Wordpress account or not.

Well yeah, but consider the alternative. It's possible that a lot of these regional bubbles would still be ignored completely on a national level had it not been for the rise of internet (pseudo)journalists. It wasn't like the source, was doing features on screw tapes or mob music in the 90s, let alone the new york times.
Exactly, that's the Catch 22 aspect of the whole thing. Still, better that good music is written about and (hopefully) brought to the attention of a wider audience than not at all. If it loses part of its "secret society/private members club" appeal as a result, then so what?

 

[deej]

i donno it seems to me that the democratization of this sort of thing isn't really a problem for journalism as a whole; sure there's more shit writing accessible to everyone, but frankly there's plenty of shitty writing on rap music in major rap magazines too. Just because its well-edited doesn't mean its neccessarily insightful or bringing something new.

 

[rootlesscosmo]

The articles might be missing some info, but they spell the artists names right

unless it's a certain blogger reviewing "Rakwon."

 

[deepbrnt]

who cares man...seriously...what a worthless observation

 

[nzshadow]

Looks like Cronulla beach, Sydney, Australia to me.

thats all.