Channel 4 calls out Banksy in Graffiti Wars documentary

[staxwax]

That king adz quote in the beginning says it all for me


"counterculture is against hedge fund managers and bankers - they're the ones who dont buy warhols and picassos anymore, they buy banksys" And yes, this is banksys goal, by design.


talmbout purposefuly commodifying something that doesn want to be commodified.





Also - the blek biting is such a nono. Where is the originality of vision? its just a cynical repackaging to serve your own purposes now, isnt it?





To me, the statements (political etc.) banksy makes in his works are like lite commercial versions of common sentiment - you make an anti paris hilton statement, then design madonnas record cover. Orly?





The 'tagging' of the israeli wall, with all these trite statements about freedom - to me its basically like getting one over at the expense of palestinians and israelis, to pat yourself on the back - because 'banksy is against the wall and for freedom'





Puhlease- what the fuck have you done for either people now, really, that wasnt a self serving pr stunt? In the end, its all about banksy selling to the pitts, isnt it? Or has banksy been giving some of his millions to palestinians, or any of the pc pr causes he endorses? nah son.





Additonally, the bit about him telling Robbo - 'never heard of you', being slapped and running off, then denying this ever happened? c'mon now. going over a classic and cherished piece of london graff history with some ghey ass street art, a bitch move, done out of spite for lack of recognition from 'real' writers.





Seen painted the hollywood sign in 85, when Banksy was still shitting his di.apers. No ulterior motive, except for getting up. Banksy ate his heart out. No cliche political statements needed.





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Seen and the Hollywood Sign - Graffiti Stories #1 door FondationCartier





Lee did his 'stop the bomb' whole car in 78 or 79 - illegally, freehand, on a train, not to sell to galleries. It was a real heartfelt statement coming out of the largely apolitical, undergound graff world. What is banksy adding to or improving on? In my eyes, nothing. He's just reselling a stenciled version of something that already existed to make money and get mainstream recognition. I dont buy it.

bonus better than banksy piece :

ITS NO BIGGIE EVERYDAY YOU EAT SHIT MAY AS WELL CHOOSE YOUR FLAVOR INSTEAD OF SOMEONE ELSE PICKIN IT OUT... 3 MEAN FLAVORS





REAS AOK/RIS whole NYC subway car, mid-80s. Eat that, banksy, warhol and fab5freddy.

 

[Burns]

dam, you put a lot thought into that last response. I don't care who does what I'm watching from the sidelines,


and I'll do my own thing.

 

[Sebastian Haff]

staxwax said:To me, the statements (political etc.) banksy makes in his works are like lite commercial versions of common sentiment - you make an anti paris hilton statement, then design madonnas record cover. Orly?







Wasn't it Mr Brainwash who did the Madonna sleeve?

 

[Hotsauce84]

Possum Tom said:that show looked horrid.










Yup.





I wonder what happened to dude? Got jumped? Attacked with a bat? Dude looks pretty beastly size-wise. *PASUE*





I trip out on the fact that Banksy hasn't been outed yet. I pretty much lost faith in "the code" at this point, and holmes seems to be working with people who wouldn't follow any kind of street code regardless. He's probably gotta be careful about pissing people off.

 

[Beatnicholas]

Herm saidossum Tom said:that show looked horrid.







I trip out on the fact that Banksy hasn't been outed yet..




well, so the story goes, this is him

and this is him as a kid

but the thing is, people are more interested in the myth than the man.





heres that story if you want to read it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1034538/Graffiti-artist-Banksy-unmasked---public-schoolboy-middle-class-suburbia.html

 

[Hotsauce84]

Ulysses31nicholas said:Herm saidossum Tom said:that show looked horrid.







I trip out on the fact that Banksy hasn't been outed yet..




well, so the story goes, this is him

and this is him as a kid

but the interesting thing is, people are more interested in the myth than the man.




Yeah, I've seen that (and believe it), but I meant publicly outed. I figure by now some news outlet would be rushing to be the first.

 

[TDLT02]

Face fits the description people have made of him in the past (down to the wearing of glasses that Robbo said he picked up and ran way with when he slapped him in the pub).

 

[Sebastian Haff]

Here's Banksy's (he co-directed) The Antics Roadshow from Channel 4 the night prior to Graffiti Wars.






The Antics Roadshow - An Incomplete Guide To... by CasseTrop

 

[Mr_Lee_PHD]

The Blek thing is enough to cause a hipsteur backlash.

 

[neil_something]

Mr_Lee_PHD said:The Blek thing is enough to cause a hipsteur backlash.




Are the hipsters responsible for his continued success? I always assumed he was far more mainstream than that now. He's like the Athena art of the past decade.

 

[Mr_Lee_PHD]

The Robbo piece was actually pretty illegible by the time Banksy did his piece:

 

[nzshadow]

Mr_Lee_PHD said:The Robbo piece was actually pretty illegible by the time Banksy did his piece:

This was my main gripe with the doc: whilst they did show this picture for the briefest of moments they repeatedly showed a far more pristine shot that gave the impression that Banksy had been the first to go over the piece.





Not that I think he was in the right, nor should being the last in a long line minimise the disrespect shown but I do think it was a sloppy piece of 'journalism' that only served to further their already apparent stance.





B/W Zoe Kravitz - Damn I feel old.

 

[DocMcCoy]

My boy took some photos of writers at work. He tends to favour b&w and he does a lot of portrait shots, so this is something a little different for him. I think the pictures are really good.