Dubstep
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you are right. Dubstep is nothing else than drum and bass at a lower speed. Anyway, defining styles of dance music (especially originating from London) has always been hilarious. You can have a great time if you simply ask people about the difference of Jungle and DnB or speed garage and house or broken beat, grime, dubstep, breakbeats, hardcoreIt's just drum and bass right....
I didn't know people still cared about that stuff.
Remember when they called it "jungle"?
However, there is little love for DnB (dubstep...) on soulstrut, but it??s still alive and very lively! If people would listen to current releases, they could check out a couple of great productions with creative sampling and beat chopping. Days of clownstep and amen attacks are long gone, although this sound still rules for the 15-19 year old party crowd in some areas.
I like the intro to the Lily Allen vid, where she's at Rough Trade attempting to explain
what type of music she's looking for, "new wave grime, dubby broken beat but more soulful...".
Ahh I can't do it justice here's the video. You can stop watching after the intro, unless you
are feeling Lily Allen, which I am, but that's the topic for another thread.
I agree, it not really reggae either.
Im just learning about it but from what I was hearing there were a lot of popular hip hop accapellas over dub type beats...or popular instro's made into dub type beats. maybe this is the amercian version.
I mean basically its like most 12" bside from 83 through 89 slowed down, glitched out and mashed up.
At least that is what I got out of it...not to say I didn't like it though, I'd like to hear more.
Im just learning about it but from what I was hearing there were a lot of popular hip hop accapellas over dub type beats...or popular instro's made into dub type beats. maybe this is the amercian version.
I mean basically its like most 12" bside from 83 through 89 slowed down, glitched out and mashed up.
At least that is what I got out of it...not to say I didn't like it though, I'd like to hear more.
That's like sayin hyphy ain't hip hop.
Not really, Dubstep is related to grime not D'n'B ,it's another branch of the UK/Speed Garage "scene"...
That's like sayin hyphy ain't hip hop.
Hardly.
Hair-splitter!
No, not really.
The soundscape of drum&bass has undeniably had an impact on dubstep over the past year, but by no means does that equate to dubstep = drum&bass.
The music is founded mainly on a presence of huge sub-bass. Other key influences are UK garage and, to an extent, grime. It's mainly all about bass though. Other influences range everything from dub to ambient to found sound to silly synth music to techno to whatever.
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you are right. Dubstep is nothing else than drum and bass at a lower speed. Anyway, defining styles of dance music (especially originating from London) has always been hilarious. You can have a great time if you simply ask people about the difference of Jungle and DnB or speed garage and house or broken beat, grime, dubstep, breakbeats, hardcoreIt's just drum and bass right....
I didn't know people still cared about that stuff.
Remember when they called it "jungle"?
I guess you're not wrong in saying Dubstep is slowed down d&b, but then you could say d&b is just sped up hiphop. The old d&b scene has definately adopted dubstep, which isn't surprising seeing as the d&b scene was pretty dead.
as for the rest, here goes..
Jungle - early form of d&b
DnB - when the music and scene moved away from its beginings (jugle,house,hardcore), they wanted to classiffy it as something seperate/new.
Speed garage - more of a buzz word really, for 2step.
2step/UK garage - the music has a familiar stepper beat. As a reaction against the darkness and common violence of the dnb scene, the garage/2step scene was all about having a good time. This was reflected in the music.
House - there are many variations of house, (from US style garage, to Hard Techno all get lumped under this banner) it would take too long and be very dull to explain.
Broken Beat - Heavily influenced by Us Garage, and born from the the ashes of dnb and acid jazz. Mixes ellements of all, but mainly defined by the freeform structure of the beat. Like taking a garage track and putting jazz drums behind it but keeping the 4/4 dance tempo.
Grime - A reaction against the light, fluffy, happy, 2step scene, the music turns darker, MCs get more 'lyrical' start talking about 'ghetto life'. The, now easy availability of simple music software/computers means that any ghetto yute can produce a track in his bedroom, and the music production values reflects this.
Dubstep - The whiteboi version of grime.
Breakbeats - never used this term
Hardcore - early rave music like Prodigy
hope that clears things up for you.
Maybe you guys should check out this board instead....
http://www.anthems.com/board/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=3f051a6596eb24ecbd170723edd8f166
http://www.anthems.com/board/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=3f051a6596eb24ecbd170723edd8f166
huh? I already knew the "differences".
I simply wanted to point out that especially London and the related music press is world famous for inventing "new" music genres every year.
Relax, the tongue was definately in the cheek.
But for the styles you listed I wouldn't say they were 'created' buy the music press at all. Most have clearly defined musical parameters and scenes. And they span a good 20 odd years.
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