Fania Label Czech

[kidinquisitive]

I just got a copy of Cosa Nuestra by Willie Colon and the label is the palm tree design. Does that mean it's a second pressing or had the label already switched to this design from the clouds design? Either way I'm glad to have this record in my possession now!

 

[magroman]

2nd press, maybe late seventies


Its a hot record, great cover. Have you checked out the cover of "Che Che Cole" by Anitbalas on daptone!!

 

[Jonny_Paycheck]

Also check the manufacture. The VZ presses used that label, they are not as good.

 

[high_c]

was che che on Cosa Nuestra or Crime Pays first? And are they the same recording?

 

[kidinquisitive]

Che Che Cole is on Cosa Nuestra, which I'm assuming is a different album from Crime Pays. BTW, am I officially a poptart for rocking the Antibalas version before I even had heard the original?

 

[faux_rillz]

BTW, am I officially a poptart for rocking the Antibalas version before I even had heard the original?

You're not gonna like the answer...

 

[pickwick33]

Che Che Cole is on Cosa Nuestra, which I'm assuming is a different album from Crime Pays.

Although it doesn't say so on the cover, I'm assuming CRIME PAYS is a compilation. I'm not home to check, but I think one of the songs from EL MALO reappears on CRIME PAYS. Not a remake or a remix, but the original master, verbatim.





Fania. Now THAT'S a label discography I'd like to see on the Both Sides Now website.

 

[faux_rillz]

Che Che Cole is on Cosa Nuestra, which I'm assuming is a different album from Crime Pays.

Although it doesn't say so on the cover, I'm assuming CRIME PAYS is a compilation. I'm not home to check, but I think one of the songs from EL MALO reappears on CRIME PAYS.





Fania. Now THAT'S a label discography I'd like to see on the Both Sides Now website.




Yeah, that would be great... the best you're going to do for now, though, is the paper innersleeves that have images of about a third of the classic catalog. The problem is that generally only albums by the big name arists--Barretto, Colon, Pacheco, etc.--are depicted there; you'd never know the Latinaires or George Guzman LPs existed.





Here's a Fania question I have:





I've seen several references to Monguito Santamaria's "four" LPs on Fania, but I only know of three: On Top, Hey Soul Sister and Blackout. What's the fourth? Are they referring to En Una Nota, which was on Inca but distributed by Fania and featured Fania personnel? Or to a release by Santamaria's confusingly-named labelmate Monguito "El Unico"?

 

[Garcia_Vega]

Crime Pays is a compilation of Willie and Hector's first four releases on Fania, El Malo, The Hustler, Cosa Nuestra, and, Guisando. As towards the label with the palm trees, the only Fania records I've seen them with are the Venezuelan pressings.





Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.


Do you, or does anyone, know who else, besides Ronnie Marks, did vocals for Monguito's On Top LP?

 

[Swayze]

As towards the label with the palm trees, the only Fania records I've seen them with are the Venezuelan pressings.

there are US palm tree labels - my copy of Siembra from 1978 is palm tree and it's a US press. I also have a later press of FAS @ the Red Garter that's US and palm tree.

for what it's worth.

Note: Venezuelan pressings suck NASCAR Driver Chimpanzee Testicles.

 

[faux_rillz]

Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.
Do you, or does anyone, know who else, besides Ronnie Marks, did vocals for Monguito's On Top LP?

Good question, and I don't know the answer to it.

By the way, welcome to the board--I appreciate the Latin knowledge you've been dropping lately.

 

[MikeFreedomRock]

Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.

"Pacheco presents Monguito" might be considered the 4th LP. Depends how you see it.

 

[pickwick33]

Che Che Cole is on Cosa Nuestra, which I'm assuming is a different album from Crime Pays.

Although it doesn't say so on the cover, I'm assuming CRIME PAYS is a compilation. I'm not home to check, but I think one of the songs from EL MALO reappears on CRIME PAYS.

Fania. Now THAT'S a label discography I'd like to see on the Both Sides Now website.
Yeah, that would be great... the best you're going to do for now, though, is the paper innersleeves that have images of about a third of the classic catalog. The problem is that generally only albums by the big name arists--Barretto, Colon, Pacheco, etc.--are depicted there; you'd never know the Latinaires or George Guzman LPs existed.
Yeah, those innersleeves stop somewhere around 1971 (by which time they were STILL putting out separate mono and stereo records, after the other labels switched to stereo entirely - what's up with that?). Not only are those sleeves great for discographical reasons, but they'll also do until somebody compiles a Fania album cover art book (ala Blue Note). Their art department had some SICK covers...

 

[faux_rillz]

Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.

"Pacheco presents Monguito" might be considered the 4th LP. Depends how you see it.
That's Monguito "El Uniquo"--a different Monguito, who recorded about half a dozen LPs on Fania as a vocalist.

 

[MikeFreedomRock]

Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.

"Pacheco presents Monguito" might be considered the 4th LP. Depends how you see it.
That's Monguito "El Uniquo"--a different Monguito, who recorded about half a dozen LPs on Fania as a vocalist.
why's he gotta have the same name. Idiots!

 

[faux_rillz]

Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.

"Pacheco presents Monguito" might be considered the 4th LP. Depends how you see it.
That's Monguito "El Uniquo"--a different Monguito, who recorded about half a dozen LPs on Fania as a vocalist.
why's he gotta have the same name. Idiots!
That record is also kind of not what's up, by the way.

 

[Garcia_Vega]

Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.

"Pacheco presents Monguito" might be considered the 4th LP. Depends how you see it.




Faux beat me to it, here's a jpg though,

 

[faux_rillz]

Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.

"Pacheco presents Monguito" might be considered the 4th LP. Depends how you see it.

I'm pretty sure that's Monguito "El Unico," not Monguito Santamaria, on the "Pacheco Presents..." LP.

It is... what's kind of bugged is that Monguito "El Uniquo" actually bears a greater physical resemblance to Mongo Santamaria than his actual son, the other Monguito, does.

 

[MikeFreedomRock]

Faux-- as far as I know those are the only four Monguito albums he put out, there is no fourth Fania release. Blackout was the last one recorded and released in 1970. He then cut En Una Nota with Inca in 1974.

"Pacheco presents Monguito" might be considered the 4th LP. Depends how you see it.
That's Monguito "El Uniquo"--a different Monguito, who recorded about half a dozen LPs on Fania as a vocalist.
why's he gotta have the same name. Idiots!
That record is also kind of not what's up, by the way.
That's why I never bought it, by the way.

 

[faux_rillz]

Che Che Cole is on Cosa Nuestra, which I'm assuming is a different album from Crime Pays.

Although it doesn't say so on the cover, I'm assuming CRIME PAYS is a compilation. I'm not home to check, but I think one of the songs from EL MALO reappears on CRIME PAYS.

Fania. Now THAT'S a label discography I'd like to see on the Both Sides Now website.
Yeah, that would be great... the best you're going to do for now, though, is the paper innersleeves that have images of about a third of the classic catalog. The problem is that generally only albums by the big name arists--Barretto, Colon, Pacheco, etc.--are depicted there; you'd never know the Latinaires or George Guzman LPs existed.
Yeah, those innersleeves stop somewhere around 1971 (by which time they were STILL putting out separate mono and stereo records, after the other labels switched to stereo entirely - what's up with that?). Not only are those sleeves great for discographical reasons, but they'll also do until somebody compiles a Fania album cover art book (ala Blue Note). Their art department had some SICK covers...
Definitely.

By the way, you can order vintage Izzy Sanabria-designed prints advertising concerts off his website. I've got one promoting an "African Twist Marathon" featuring Eddie Palmieri, Ray Barretto, Joe Bataan and the Lebron Brothers framed in my record room.