I dont make Beats but.........

Thank you thes. Wish they would do this right. At least I won't waste my money. Looks like Maschine is a better (and cheaper) route if you want to try going software. And I still have my MPC2000+SP combo when I want it.





If you think you know what "we" need, you have already lost. Make a new innovative product that succeeds on a general creative and music level and then let us "freak" it. This attempt to market it to "urban" is corny at best -




So true. I feel ableton live is doing its own thing and developing the way we make music with electronics.
 
ugh. really disappointing to read this report, thes.





On the plus side, I guess the SCSI CF reader I bought last year seems to be making more and more sense for the long haul...
 
bump..





so who is using a renaissance or studio and likes it?


I really want these new models to be the solution to many


of my frustrations working with the xl but thes' review is very sobering.





have any other strutters tried these out and can say more positive things about them?
 
I have the Ren, after being offered an opportunity to pick one up on a wholesale deal thru a friend. To be honest, i never really have used the MPC in the past (2000, 3000, etc) so I dont have much to compare it to (I always used an ASR10 as my outboard, last time I used an MPC was the 60 lol)





So far I have been using it mostly as a plugin in PT. i do wish that - to Thes' point - it just mapped straight out in the DAW but I can get all my tracks bussed to separate tracks one by one, and I feel like there might actually be a way to bus them internally on MPC (the plugin, that is) but I honestly haven't spent a lot of time playing with it. I wish it could work as a standalone, when you hear something and have an idea to bang out, firing up the computer and so on can be a boner killer. But that said it is pretty easy to get going.





Some of the software capabilities are cool. The hardware is great. I dunno, I think if you are looking at something like Maschine, or you are already working in Ableton, the MPC software is duplication with a nice controller for a hefty price tag. I wouldnt have paid full price I dont think. I dont think the software breaks any new ground.





I'm still having some midi mapping issues, might have to bring in my old midi patchbay to handle it. The software is definitely lacking, but they've already made some decent updates so I'm hopeful.
 
thank you. Yeah I messed with a ren a bit the other day at a local shop


and I kinda figured that I'd probably still need another DAW to export tracks to.


I thought that would be the big thing about the renaissance, that you get a complete fusion of the hardware and a DAW.


For example I couldn't believe that it wouldn't let me assign specific pads/sounds to individual tracks if recorded


at the same time. like playing a drum set and have separate tracks for kick snare hats etc..


I'm not sure if I just didn't get how to do it but why would they create a software like this and not


include that as an option?