Let's talk re-edit!

[TDLT02]

I enjoy editing/remixing tracks with a friend as another way of still having involment in the scene (I don't play out as much these days as I used to, family and getting old....LOL!), and of finding ways to re-arrange favourate tracks from the past, to freshen them up to our ears.











Link to our soundcloud page:





http://soundcloud.com/good-vibes

 

[bboyparkz]

Just a heads up the Black Cock edits getting mentioned in this thread are in the Juno sale at the moment for ??1.40 each.

 

[Beatnicholas]

bboyparkz said:Just a heads up the Black Cock edits getting mentioned in this thread are in the Juno sale at the moment for ??1.40 each.




wow, thanks parkz i've just ordered the whole lot. the original presses go for money these days (those are the represses)..





http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=black+cock

 

[Deep_Sang]

Kon's a purist when it comes to labeling something an edit, but I don't think the line is that clear. For example, the Tavares edit I posted is a straight edit with a little 808 added to the kick throughout. I'd feel like a total poseur if I tried to call that a remix. If you substantially change the vibe of a track with added elements then to me that's a remix, but if it's something really subtle just to beef it up for the club then I don't have a problem calling that an edit. I guess it gets down to splitting hairs at a certain point though.

 

[Mjukis]

Nice thread.





I've sort of been taking a break from DJ:ing the last year or so, only playing occasionally. This is one of the things I'd like to get into more, doing more edits, and making more music of my own of course.





I've only done a couple of really simple edits - just one audio file, editing out parts and extending others. Here's one I did of Hydraulic Pump by P-Funk - the OG track just gets a little to wild for my taste, and that intro guitar had to go.





http://www.mediafire.com/?57nps89h9glt4mp

 

[Lumin]

i do some edits here and there, mostly for myself and the homies, but i've been wanting to press up some on 45 so that is plans for this year. for the heads comin out to miami for wmc, ill have copies of the first release.





im not necessarily a purist when it comes to edits, but i really only try and use the original stuff on the record. i may record some extra hand claps or play a live kick on top though. thats about the extent of things i add. no 808s or drum machines, etc. i will EQ to give it some more thump.


tryin to keep it on some disco shit, not tryin to make a house remix.





u tern and kon are/been on that other shit and doing it so so right. big fan of what they been doin.

 

[Lumin]

also really likin those rhyze and orchestre poly rhythmo edits yall posted up. hot shit

 

[DJ_Enki]

Ulysses31nicholas said:big shout to pilooski in this thread as well.. love his edits




Yes. That dude Shoes, too...I like his style.

 

[RAW_HAMBURGER]

Deep_Sang said:Kon's a purist when it comes to labeling something an edit, but I don't think the line is that clear. For example, the Tavares edit I posted is a straight edit with a little 808 added to the kick throughout. I'd feel like a total poseur if I tried to call that a remix. If you substantially change the vibe of a track with added elements then to me that's a remix, but if it's something really subtle just to beef it up for the club then I don't have a problem calling that an edit. I guess it gets down to splitting hairs at a certain point though.




i guess i am a purist on many levels


but i agree with you, adding an 808 doesnt make it a remix to me...





more so adding a full drum track, sampling sections and such.. it to me becomes either a remix, or a new jam.


im just defining this based on real remixes of the past and of course house and hip hop....


ive said this before....


we/ people dont call dj sneak or armand van helden, todd terry, maw, etc etc.. records where they sample/loop up a 2/4 bar sections...filters and drop a drum track over it...edits. they are referred to as straight up jams.


by todays standards and this blurred definition, the bucketheads "bomb" would be a great example. thats not an edit..sorry.





this term is thrown around constantly with other current tracks using the same techniques.


trusme being a currant example.


for hip hop, it would be anything under the umbrella of a sample with a drum track. this definition is just wrong, and would reclassify everything that has already exists.


i think its important to define whats what.

 

[RAW_HAMBURGER]

mannybolone said:I've really enjoyed this thread, especially the debates around the purpose and aesthetics of edits.





I do very primitive edits, usually for DJing purposes (and even then, it's really basic stuff, such as creating longer intros and other predictable touch-ups) or, if it's tunes for the site, cutting out shit I don't like (I have a guitar solo-free version of Ray Barretto's "Pastime Paradise" that works remarkably well despite it being a simple cut), or, going the other way, creating unity mixes between two-sides of a single.





My personal favorite is a simple unity edit for Skye's "Ain't No Need" though I think the song could use a better, DJ-friendly edit that allows you to go straight into the main groove.





Ain't No Need (Unity Mix) by soulsides




try the 12" of aint no need, complete different mix... doing pretty much what you ask of it.





thats a record id kill to get the session for. already a perfect song, id love to stip that down and stretch out some sections.

 

[pcmr]

DJ_Enki said:Ulysses31nicholas said:big shout to pilooski in this thread as well.. love his edits




Yes. That dude Shoes, too...I like his style.







both you dudes allow me to play KFrimpong' Kwaku 3 times in a different set

 

[RAW_HAMBURGER]

sang.... great edit of tavares, always felt like its 2 jams in one...the hook being a bit more happy and upbeat... then the groove you start with from their break is so tough ... always thought if teddy covered this jam itd be a winner as well.


tavares are from cape cod ma, with such a philly sound. under rated group right there.

 

[DJ_Enki]

pcmr saidJ_Enki said:Ulysses31nicholas said:big shout to pilooski in this thread as well.. love his edits




Yes. That dude Shoes, too...I like his style.







both you dudes allow me to play KFrimpong' Kwaku 3 times in a different set




:beerbang:





It makes me happy to hear that my stuff gets playage. Did Shoes do a Frimpong edit? I need to hear that!

 

[pcmr]

yep its kyen kyen (shoes edit)

 

[pimlicosquirrel]

http://soundcloud.com/gregwilson

 

[RAW_HAMBURGER]

Greg Wilson is the man by all means...a pioneer, i was shocked when i saw him using that beat match computer program to dj live.


Greg you dont need that.








Also, John Morales has got some amazing remixes... 4 different takes of teddy's the more i get... some 14 mins long.


New stuff on the way from him, multi track remixes of candi staton.


Realizing how many records hes had a hand in... never got credited. he did the entire logg lp, as well as all the inner life stuff.


Considering what hes done, hes extremely humble and down to earth... just a regular new yorker.


Also, Larry didnt actually do instant funks got my mind made up... although hes credited.


I wish a documentary would be made about Tom, John, Bob Blank, FK, Shep, P&P and this movement that has really allowed for what so many of us are doing. 40 years later... heavy duty shit.





3 friends, legends.... shooting the shit.... the history right here.

 

[neil_something]

RAW_HAMBURGER said:Also, John Morales has got some amazing remixes...




yes!





not wanting to derail the thread, but this is one of my personal favourites of his...

 

[Burns]

Has anyone done an edit to Rhythm Heritage "Sky's The Limit"? Such a nice groove buts get campy in sections, am I getting into remixing by messing with that though?














major props to you on here to who do some amazing edits.

 

[disco_che]

RAW_HAMBURGER said:Greg Wilson is the man by all means...a pioneer, i was shocked when i saw him using that beat match computer program to dj live.


Greg you dont need that.







Indeed, he doesn't.

 

[Beatnicholas]

RAW_HAMBURGER said:


I wish a documentary would be made about Tom, John, Bob Blank, FK, Shep, P&P and this movement that has really allowed for what so many of us are doing. 40 years later... heavy duty shit.




realtalk! that would be amazing. it needs to happen soon before any more of these guys depart the earth.