Live instrument hip hop band UNappreciation post

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"I'm anti suburban bashing, pro-doing music that moves you (and maybe will move others) and anti-mimickry/gimmickry/bastardization."
Sweet--me too!
 
I'm no expert but I think "skateboard rap" is probably whatever rap songs are on the new tony hawk game. I think what ya'll are talking about is more "college rap" "College rap" is a big ole category and would include... well shit college kids listen too or litened too. Roots, De La, Tribe, Rawkus, Anticon, Shadow, Common, Heiro, PROJECT BLOWED, Dialated, Atmosphere, Boom-Bip, Little Brother, Sole, Shit dude was taling about over in the "indie/underground" post etc. etc. etc.
 
I love capone bone!
THAT'S MY SHIT. I got doubles of the War Report if you wanna trade Phonics.

also Phonics, yo what's the name of that horrible jam/funk band that was always at the Justice League with that corny ass trumpet player dude? I'm dying over here!
 
I love capone bone!
THAT'S MY SHIT. I got doubles of the War Report if you wanna trade Phonics.

also Phonics, yo what's the name of that horrible jam/funk band that was always at the Justice League with that corny ass trumpet player dude? I'm dying over here!


ROFL! OHHH DUDE I REMEBER THAT GUY! He had this super lame ass dance (shuffling his shoulders and shit)


RAW DELUXE!
 
I'm no expert but I think "skateboard rap" is probably whatever rap songs are on the new tony hawk game. I think what ya'll are talking about is more "college rap" "College rap" is a big ole category and would include... well shit college kids listen too or litened too. Roots, De La, Tribe, Rawkus, Anticon, Shadow, Common, Heiro, PROJECT BLOWED, Dialated, Atmosphere, Boom-Bip, Little Brother, Sole, Shit dude was taling about over in the "indie/underground" post etc. etc. etc.
Yep, lots of college kids get down to "Pistolgrip Pump"...but probably not the college kids you're thinking of.

 
I'm no expert but I think "skateboard rap" is probably whatever rap songs are on the new tony hawk game. I think what ya'll are talking about is more "college rap" "College rap" is a big ole category and would include... well shit college kids listen too or litened too. Roots, De La, Tribe, Rawkus, Anticon, Shadow, Common, Heiro, PROJECT BLOWED, Dialated, Atmosphere, Boom-Bip, Little Brother, Sole, Shit dude was taling about over in the "indie/underground" post etc. etc. etc.
Yep, lots of college kids get down to "Pistolgrip Pump"...but probably not the college kids you're thinking of.



oh lord, are these the mysterious sect of college kids who don't fit the "hackey sack" mold in Austin?

I mean outside of that song being big with black college dance troupes.....
 
I love capone bone!
THAT'S MY SHIT. I got doubles of the War Report if you wanna trade Phonics.

also Phonics, yo what's the name of that horrible jam/funk band that was always at the Justice League with that corny ass trumpet player dude? I'm dying over here!


ROFL! OHHH DUDE I REMEBER THAT GUY! He had this super lame ass dance (shuffling his shoulders and shit)

AWWWWWWWW RAW DELUXE! OMIGODROFLLMAOLOLX2!


RAW DELUXE!
 
white dude in a Grateful Dead shirt with dreadlocks he got at a salon
on this note I would like to say that I firmly beleive that more black folks w/ dreads are of the salon variety than white hippes whose are most likely home made while waiting for Phish shows in some parking lot.
The myth of "leave you hair alone and it will magically form perfect locks" is just that. Point being, there is nothing wrong with having your baby locks twisted up by a professional.
Nope..wrong!

My lock are 8 years and counting and I've never stepped in a salon. I let it grow and they locked. Yep it's that easy. No fashion dreads here. Do the blowed go to salons?
 
Nope..wrong!

My lock are 8 years and counting and I've never stepped in a salon. I let it grow and they locked. Yep it's that easy. No fashion dreads here. Do the blowed go to salons?
you helped 'em out a little by yourself when you were bored or your girl did though right? Otherwise wouldn't you have some overly gargantuan ones and some thread thin ones?
 
i dont know how to phrase this right without sounding politically incorrect, but people need to burn mtv so that all kinds of kid cats, all colors included, may be enticed by picking up an instrument and not thinking instruments are for sounding like phucking linkin park, match box 20, limp bizkit, the killers, good charolette and whatever is classified as alternative music these days. Its sad kids are limited to thinking that guitars are only for rock music. i know im retarded, but one of my first casettes was some sucidal tendencies tape i bought because the bass player was black. i even bought bodycount. both lps were phucking horrible, the suicidal tendencies moreso (i still remember the pain of wasting $13.99 on it...lots of dough back then). then i found out more brownies that played guitar and that made me happy.

but i think it was even qbert...or no, someone else, was it dj babu on scratch or somethign that said qbert is like an inspiration for asians everywhere? that shiet is necessary, as speaking for myself, its hard to look up to people when u dont see yourself in them. and the next 10 years are gonna kick way more integration in our society and im hopeful it will transcend into the audio world.

how does this post even relate to the topic at hand?

because (and this may be a generalization) id say 90% of kids pick up instruments to cover and make rock music. i dont think a lot of kids say "man i'd love to play the guitar riff in hypnotize, or the lick in de la's "say no go", and i think they should. and they will. give it time.

i think that the roots will definitely spark interest and inspire some legitimate bands in the future and should be respected for that. as for them taking things to the next level, i agree they really havent, but godamn they put on a live show and a half


one thing i want to point out though, is the stigma of a "live hip hop band". does anyone really go "oh that sounds better because it was done by a live band"? I dont, and i dont give a phuck if its the turntables, instruments or fruit loops that generate the sound, if its makes my ear drums cum, come again!
 
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Look, I like this record as much as anyone. I bought it when it was new, and bumped it for way longer than your average hip-hop flava of the month...but can we not agree that THIS VERY ALBUM is the inspiration for all these garbage hip-hop-jam-bands you guys are railing against?? For that matter, as much as I like this record, it was more the MC's on it (although, okey, Jamalski is not going to get the time of day from me outside of this LP), and the novelty of a dude like Kool G. Rap rhyming in front of a band that made it so hot...I'm not sure what I want to say, except it's funny how many people have held this up in this thread as:

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This is it done right.
While holding up artist X and saying,

"this is garbage"
when it's pretty much the same fucking thing, except without Main Source on the mics...

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Man I dont know about all the skateboard shit but I'll say that the Roots got kind of boring over time. I have seen them perform pretty much the exact same set like ten times literally, then I gave up on them. I saw em last year with Jean Grae and Skills in a kind of review show where they all switched off and came out at different times, and they had some new folks adding some flavor to the mix and it was a tight show. But for so long when they were just dooo dooo doooo doooo keyboards all day I couldn't take it. Got real boring.

BUT seriously, there's some great things happening in Texas right now with the live hip hop bands. We had a whole showcase of this type of thing at SXSW this year and I will say Mojoe out of San Antonio is killing it. Not formulaic at all, definitely on their own shiot. Down south live band shit with skilled MC's who are different from the typical Texas sound but not too far out there.

Then Bavu Blakes has that dude D-Madness, blind guy who plays drums bass and keys at the same time. Also plays violin and more. Fucking brilliant man. Add like 9 more pieces to that and Bavu is fucking killin em.

And as for the Scarface live band, it's pretty amazing. 12 pieces. It's like one of the most jammin live shows I have ever seen. Of course I am a huge Face fan, but shit those guys get it going. None of the above are nag champa craving hacky sack hippies at all. I have seen a few of those bands and yes they are annoying as shit.

jam on down.
 
There's one in every city... possibly three or four. They all sound exactly the same... whether in NYC or Portland or Kansas City. They'll never blow up on a largescale level but they continue to pop up everywhere. Tonight as I sit here pondering, I ask you all...

WHAT IS THE FUCKING DEAL WITH LIVE INSTRUMENT HIP HOP GROUPS?!?!?

Here's what I've gathered...

They all have the same lineup: drummer, bassist, keyboard (usually Fender Rhodes), rapper

The musicians are all obviously talented, but can never come up with music more exciting or unique than a 4-chord loop with a dull bassline (always that ??berclean, undistorted jazz bass sound) and a smooooth keyboard progression.

They are formed from the ashes of (or are sideprojects of still-active) jam bands.

They always kick "positive" or "conscious" rhymes.

They have names like Groove Assembly.

They can probably never be reviewed or written about without The Roots being mentioned.

People in every city, especially college kids, LOVE these groups.



Can someone shed some light on what the fuck is going on here?

lol@groove assembly! hahaha.

Conversely, snoop's band is on point like what!