Sample Snitching

[LaserWolf]

Just bought some records from an original artist whose record has been sampled by a much loved dj.
I of course, let him know about the sample, and that he may be owed royalties.
Is that frowned on?

His vocals of a traditional song, learned from Leadbelly, were sampled.
Since he is not the writer, does he even have a claim.

 

[youngEINSTEIN]

YES. This is frowned upon.





If HIS version was sampled he is due royalties because they sampled his MASTER version which requires a license and compensation(unless they agree on a 1 time fee before release)





Peace, stein...

 

[johnblack]

I got blasted very hard on a local hip hop production forum for merely pointing out a sample I had found while digging was used (un-credited that I could find) by a popular local artist in his most popular track.


in a thread about samples and sampling.





touchy subject to some people i guess.

 

[ketan]

depends on the artist, no? imagine if it was a stadium-level act versus an artist who just hadn't had a lucrative career and could use the cash.

 

[amphibious]

Id say it depends - if dude is struggling and the sampler is making loot off of him then it's all good to point it out. If you were snitching on someones basement session ep that they werent making any money off then that'd be a problem. Id say it's basically ok if it feels like someone is being exploited - if not let it be.

 

[countmacula]

Why would anybody want to dry snitch. What's in it for you? I hate people that do this.

 

[LaserWolf]

Thanks everyone for your input.





@YI - The sample, is not actually a sample. The recording was used in a rehearsal for a live dj set. The rehearsal was recorded and released by the djs.





@ K and A - Right, dj is playing the Hollywood Bowl, original artist is playing coffee houses.





@ CM - The reason for it is, first I have a relationship with the artist, and second as stated by K&A. I also have a relationship with the other people in question. I assume, them being good people, if any royalties are owed they would want to pay. My purpose was not to snitch. In conversation about the recording in question I asked if he knew it had been used.

 

[ASAPCOCKNEY]

Def snitch. What kinda real artist bites like that? That's a bad so-call-artist anyways. Better for the game to rid these cheap bastard mofos.

 

[LaserWolf]

on't hate the Slayer...

 

[rain103]

I don't see a problem letting the original artist know his stuff is still out there somewhere and still somewhat relevent. I'd probably leave it up to him to find it and persue royalties though. If the song/sample was a big enough hit he would probably find out soon enough, no?

 

[Jimster]

Seems simply fair to me to let a struggling artist know if someone is making money off their work.





I recally Monty (RIP) posting here, recalling when Will.I.Am told him they would be using his work, deliberately uncleared, and that he would have a good payout if he was to pursue it, which he did, IIRC. - Will was actively looking to see Monty got paid.





:applause:

 

[The_Hook_Up]

Why would somebody sample snitch? Maybe because the original artist/composer doesn't have a pot to piss in. They deserve some loot if their sample was used and the sampling artist profited from it. A buddy of mine told Lou Bond that he had been sampled and who sampled him (years before his LP was reissued) and you know what Lou wanted? "A used corolla or something, because it is a drag to ride a bike in the rain." So, I say "yay" to sample snitching.

 

[DjWillderness]

I don't want to instigate a legal dispute. I also don't want to make up my mind who deserves what money. I don't see the bank accounts or royalty statements, and I don't try to place people economically.

 

[DjWillderness]

P.S. Try and clear a sample sometime before you judge artists that don't pay royalties. I don't believe artists should limit themselves to making art that is legal within our current (broken) copyright framework.

 

[Gary]

Just do it. Anybody who samples knows that they might get caught at this point in the game. It's not 1989 anymore.

 

[DjWillderness]

why risk getting sued for a year's salary to make sampled based music to entertain fans that will go out of their way to put you in legal jeopardy? why do it at this point?

 

[skel]

Bunch of muhfuckin grasses up in this bith

 

[El Prez]

Kinda like the guy that goes to the local record shop and tells the owner about popsike and collectors frenzy

 

[ketan]

i don't know the current laws anywhere very well, but people should be able to create whatever they want using whatever they want when it comes to music.





BUT if you're making $$ off a particular usage, then you should feel responsible for paying out a little bit to the og. and if you're doing something potentially offensive with it, then expect to be criticized by the og. and there might need to be laws to regulate that behaviour.





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[kala]

sweatshop said:Kinda like the guy that goes to the local record shop and tells the owner about popsike and collectors frenzy




yea how dare he stay in business