Searching For Sugarman.
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umm according to the trailer, it would be pretty difficult for him to have toured a few years back
mindblownig! thank you so much.
gives me flashbacks. around 10 years ago i found the South African (obviously...)pressing of Sugarman LP in the Mabu Vinyl record shop in Cape Town and Stephen sold it to me saying this is a very special record. it was the first time i've seen it.
need to see this movie
gives me flashbacks. around 10 years ago i found the South African (obviously...)pressing of Sugarman LP in the Mabu Vinyl record shop in Cape Town and Stephen sold it to me saying this is a very special record. it was the first time i've seen it.
need to see this movie
Thymebomb13 said
ante said:tripledouble said:umm according to the trailer, it would be pretty difficult for him to have toured a few years back
i haven't had time to check out the trailer, but i'm positive he toured australia at least in the 90s.
He played in Australia in 2007. Before then he hadn't been there since 1981, when he did a tour with Midnight Oil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixto_Diaz_Rodriguez
thanks for getting the facts right!
i still haven't got an OG of Cold Fact, hope this doesn't shoot the prices up...
also, the trailer looks pretty well done, hope the film delivers!
ante said:tripledouble said:umm according to the trailer, it would be pretty difficult for him to have toured a few years backi haven't had time to check out the trailer, but i'm positive he toured australia at least in the 90s.
He played in Australia in 2007. Before then he hadn't been there since 1981, when he did a tour with Midnight Oil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixto_Diaz_Rodriguez
thanks for getting the facts right!
i still haven't got an OG of Cold Fact, hope this doesn't shoot the prices up...
also, the trailer looks pretty well done, hope the film delivers!
Dante said:Thymebomb13 saidante said:tripledouble said:umm according to the trailer, it would be pretty difficult for him to have toured a few years back
i haven't had time to check out the trailer, but i'm positive he toured australia at least in the 90s.
He played in Australia in 2007. Before then he hadn't been there since 1981, when he did a tour with Midnight Oil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixto_Diaz_Rodriguez
thanks for getting the facts right!
i still haven't got an OG of Cold Fact, hope this doesn't shoot the prices up...
also, the trailer looks pretty well done, hope the film delivers!
He also played here 3 years ago (and tore shit up I might add). I also have a vinyl copy of his 81show that he did in OZ way back where he kills it. Sidebar - he played the same week that Rod Stewart did when he was on the top of the charts and Rodriguez pulled a bigger crowd even though he had no chart presence and just word of mouth following.
In OZ he is quite big and well known because a Melbourne company Blue Goose picked up the rights for his 2 LPs and pressed them up locally as well as a compilation that features 3 songs that were never released. You can find clean Blue Goose copies of Sugarman for around $10-15 not too hard. His second LP isnt as common.
The doco played in Sydney as part of a film festival but only two screenings at they sold out straight away. Looking forward to the proper release. I believe its a similar premise to a website that was set up years ago about Rodriguez by some South African fans talking about how they tracked him down through his daughters I believe and got him to come to SA in 94 (?) to do a gig.
One thing I always wanted to know more about regarding Rodriguez is the Dennis Coffey & Mike Theodore connection. How they came about producing a more folk style artist and who else played on the LPs...
ante said:tripledouble said:umm according to the trailer, it would be pretty difficult for him to have toured a few years backi haven't had time to check out the trailer, but i'm positive he toured australia at least in the 90s.
He played in Australia in 2007. Before then he hadn't been there since 1981, when he did a tour with Midnight Oil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixto_Diaz_Rodriguez
thanks for getting the facts right!
i still haven't got an OG of Cold Fact, hope this doesn't shoot the prices up...
also, the trailer looks pretty well done, hope the film delivers!
He also played here 3 years ago (and tore shit up I might add). I also have a vinyl copy of his 81show that he did in OZ way back where he kills it. Sidebar - he played the same week that Rod Stewart did when he was on the top of the charts and Rodriguez pulled a bigger crowd even though he had no chart presence and just word of mouth following.
In OZ he is quite big and well known because a Melbourne company Blue Goose picked up the rights for his 2 LPs and pressed them up locally as well as a compilation that features 3 songs that were never released. You can find clean Blue Goose copies of Sugarman for around $10-15 not too hard. His second LP isnt as common.
The doco played in Sydney as part of a film festival but only two screenings at they sold out straight away. Looking forward to the proper release. I believe its a similar premise to a website that was set up years ago about Rodriguez by some South African fans talking about how they tracked him down through his daughters I believe and got him to come to SA in 94 (?) to do a gig.
One thing I always wanted to know more about regarding Rodriguez is the Dennis Coffey & Mike Theodore connection. How they came about producing a more folk style artist and who else played on the LPs...
For my NY folk:
SONY PICTURES CLASSICS
and
The FADER
Invite You and a Guest to An Advanced Screening of
SEARCHING FOR SUGAR MAN
Please join us for the following New York special screening:
Wednesday, July 18th at 8:00 PM
(550 Madison Avenue between 55th and 56th, 7th Floor)
Immediately following the screening there will be a brief Q & A with Rodriguez and director Malik Bendjelloul
SEATING IS LIMITED - RSVP???s GIVEN ON FIRST RECEIVED, FIRST SERVED BASIS
RSVP to SugarMan@42west.net
In the late ???60s, a musician was discovered in a Detroit bar by two celebrated Motown producers who were struck by his soulful melodies and prophetic lyrics. They recorded an album that they believed was going to secure his reputation as one of the greatest recording artists of his generation. In fact, the album bombed and the singer disappeared into obscurity amid rumors of a gruesome on-stage suicide. But a bootleg recording found its way into apartheid South Africa and, over the next two decades, it became a phenomenon (as big as The Beatles). Two South African fans then set out to find out what really happened to their hero. Their investigation led them to a story more extraordinary than any of the existing myths about the artist known as Rodriguez. This is a film about hope, inspiration and the resonating power of music.
Opening NY/LA on July 27, 2012 | Runtime: 85 min | Not Yet Rated
Soundtrack available everywhere starting July 24, 2012, through Columbia/Legacy
For additional information:
Scott Feinstein ??? Scott.Feinstein@42west.net
Beau Benton ??? Beau.Benton@42west.net
For Film Site, High-Res Art & Press Information visit:
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User Name: press
Password: sonyclassics
SONY PICTURES CLASSICS
and
The FADER
Invite You and a Guest to An Advanced Screening of
SEARCHING FOR SUGAR MAN
Please join us for the following New York special screening:
Wednesday, July 18th at 8:00 PM
(550 Madison Avenue between 55th and 56th, 7th Floor)
Immediately following the screening there will be a brief Q & A with Rodriguez and director Malik Bendjelloul
SEATING IS LIMITED - RSVP???s GIVEN ON FIRST RECEIVED, FIRST SERVED BASIS
RSVP to SugarMan@42west.net
In the late ???60s, a musician was discovered in a Detroit bar by two celebrated Motown producers who were struck by his soulful melodies and prophetic lyrics. They recorded an album that they believed was going to secure his reputation as one of the greatest recording artists of his generation. In fact, the album bombed and the singer disappeared into obscurity amid rumors of a gruesome on-stage suicide. But a bootleg recording found its way into apartheid South Africa and, over the next two decades, it became a phenomenon (as big as The Beatles). Two South African fans then set out to find out what really happened to their hero. Their investigation led them to a story more extraordinary than any of the existing myths about the artist known as Rodriguez. This is a film about hope, inspiration and the resonating power of music.
Opening NY/LA on July 27, 2012 | Runtime: 85 min | Not Yet Rated
Soundtrack available everywhere starting July 24, 2012, through Columbia/Legacy
For additional information:
Scott Feinstein ??? Scott.Feinstein@42west.net
Beau Benton ??? Beau.Benton@42west.net
For Film Site, High-Res Art & Press Information visit:
http://press.sonyclassics.com/
User Name: press
Password: sonyclassics
saw it earlier today, incredible, such an awesome doco, lots of people brought to tears, the swedish? interviewer comes across as a toolbox but everything else is awesome, people need to go see this as soon as the chance arises. no mention of his popularity in OZ or NZ at all, it just plays it straight from the SA perspective, like SA is the only place in the world which ever sold Rodriguez LPs but overall that's a minor qualm. would have been cool for him to play/sing for the camera, some new performing footage, the most recent stuff is the 98 SA tour, all the recent stuff is just interviews & footage of him in his house & roaming Detroit. Good interviews (considering the interviewer) with Coffey, Theodore & Clarence Avant as well.
LokoOne said:
I believe its a similar premise to a website that was set up years ago about Rodriguez by some South African fans talking about how they tracked him down through his daughters I believe and got him to come to SA in 94 (?) to do a gig.
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this is pretty much the synopsis of the film, how the south african guys tracked down a "lost" artist in 1997 who the Australians had found & toured in 1980 already & then proceed to paint it as though he hasn't played in public since he lost his Sussex contract in 73 lol
still awesome.
I believe its a similar premise to a website that was set up years ago about Rodriguez by some South African fans talking about how they tracked him down through his daughters I believe and got him to come to SA in 94 (?) to do a gig.
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this is pretty much the synopsis of the film, how the south african guys tracked down a "lost" artist in 1997 who the Australians had found & toured in 1980 already & then proceed to paint it as though he hasn't played in public since he lost his Sussex contract in 73 lol
still awesome.
Finally got a chance to see this doc--really well done, if a bit oversimplified...the NYT had an accurate review recently.
So I know he's currently touring the US (with some overseas dates thrown in):
http://lightintheattic.net/artists/1-rodriguez/tour_dates
Does anyone know who is backing band is this time around? Did they find local musicians for each city? I know that his 2009 US tour was backed by the Fresh & Onlys, but I'm curious to know who they have lined up for these upcoming dates.
So I know he's currently touring the US (with some overseas dates thrown in):
http://lightintheattic.net/artists/1-rodriguez/tour_dates
Does anyone know who is backing band is this time around? Did they find local musicians for each city? I know that his 2009 US tour was backed by the Fresh & Onlys, but I'm curious to know who they have lined up for these upcoming dates.
BELIEVE said:Finally got a chance to see this doc--really well done, if a bit oversimplified...the NYT had an accurate review recently.
I thought this documentary was horrible. Poorly shot, poorly edited, the story itself had gaping contradictions (ex. One of the South African experts on Rodriguez say he never recorded again, and then in one of the musical interludes they play stuff from his unreleased 1973 album).
The interview with Rodriguez was horrible, he's touching the microphone the entire time and no one has the sense to tell him not to. Its so bad that they had the interviewer off camera re-do his questions in a VO session in silence and the difference in background noise between question and answer is jarring.
No one delved into what inspired Rodriguez and his song writing nor did anyone really see what he was up to in the 70's 80's and 90's beyond coworkers saying he did construction, what about his personal life? (He has kids, does he have a wife?) his feelings towards the failure of his LP's (he obviously recorded material for another album, what happened there?), what about the money people were sending to A&M/ Sussex for album sales that he seemingly never recieved? FAIL
Most of the experts come across as blowhards who use far too much hyperbole in their interviews (ex. "no one knew who Rodriguez was in the US", "Rodriguez was way bigger than the Rolling Stones").
there were a few great parts of the doc; I liked the build up to his South African concert, one of the few well done scenes, also seeing a copy of his LP in a South African Government building with the first track scratched up was a great example of showing how they tried to censor his music. But overall this looked like something I'd see on YouTube in 3 parts.
I thought this documentary was horrible. Poorly shot, poorly edited, the story itself had gaping contradictions (ex. One of the South African experts on Rodriguez say he never recorded again, and then in one of the musical interludes they play stuff from his unreleased 1973 album).
The interview with Rodriguez was horrible, he's touching the microphone the entire time and no one has the sense to tell him not to. Its so bad that they had the interviewer off camera re-do his questions in a VO session in silence and the difference in background noise between question and answer is jarring.
No one delved into what inspired Rodriguez and his song writing nor did anyone really see what he was up to in the 70's 80's and 90's beyond coworkers saying he did construction, what about his personal life? (He has kids, does he have a wife?) his feelings towards the failure of his LP's (he obviously recorded material for another album, what happened there?), what about the money people were sending to A&M/ Sussex for album sales that he seemingly never recieved? FAIL
Most of the experts come across as blowhards who use far too much hyperbole in their interviews (ex. "no one knew who Rodriguez was in the US", "Rodriguez was way bigger than the Rolling Stones").
there were a few great parts of the doc; I liked the build up to his South African concert, one of the few well done scenes, also seeing a copy of his LP in a South African Government building with the first track scratched up was a great example of showing how they tried to censor his music. But overall this looked like something I'd see on YouTube in 3 parts.
Good to know, thanks Adam.
The hype around the film was real confusing to me.
Wasn't his record recently reissued with a tour with lots of hype and npr interviews a few years back?
His record certainly did sell. I used to pick it up all the time in the 90s to sell over seas.
It lacked the funk and the soul that my domestic customers wanted.
I am I correct in remembering he was a pleasant singer songwriter, but no where near the artist Bill Withers, Donny Hathaway or Joe South?
Reminds of the hype around Buena Vista Social Club. No one Cuba listens to Son.
The hype around the film was real confusing to me.
Wasn't his record recently reissued with a tour with lots of hype and npr interviews a few years back?
His record certainly did sell. I used to pick it up all the time in the 90s to sell over seas.
It lacked the funk and the soul that my domestic customers wanted.
I am I correct in remembering he was a pleasant singer songwriter, but no where near the artist Bill Withers, Donny Hathaway or Joe South?
Reminds of the hype around Buena Vista Social Club. No one Cuba listens to Son.
LaserWolf said:Good to know, thanks Adam.
The hype around the film was real confusing to me.
Wasn't his record recently reissued with a tour with lots of hype and npr interviews a few years back?
His record certainly did sell. I used to pick it up all the time in the 90s to sell over seas.
It lacked the funk and the soul that my domestic customers wanted.
I am I correct in remembering he was a pleasant singer songwriter, but no where near the artist Bill Withers, Donny Hathaway or Joe South?
Reminds of the hype around Buena Vista Social Club. No one Cuba listens to Son.
His Lyrics and the songs just overall seem really nice, but although its said by the two South African characters that his lyrics were inspirational to South Africans its not backed up by any facts or personal stories.
I do believe he got the reissue treatment a few years back, and hearing his tracks in the film did make me pull out my copy of Cold Fact and give it a good listen, but the film could of been done so much better.
The hype around the film was real confusing to me.
Wasn't his record recently reissued with a tour with lots of hype and npr interviews a few years back?
His record certainly did sell. I used to pick it up all the time in the 90s to sell over seas.
It lacked the funk and the soul that my domestic customers wanted.
I am I correct in remembering he was a pleasant singer songwriter, but no where near the artist Bill Withers, Donny Hathaway or Joe South?
Reminds of the hype around Buena Vista Social Club. No one Cuba listens to Son.
His Lyrics and the songs just overall seem really nice, but although its said by the two South African characters that his lyrics were inspirational to South Africans its not backed up by any facts or personal stories.
I do believe he got the reissue treatment a few years back, and hearing his tracks in the film did make me pull out my copy of Cold Fact and give it a good listen, but the film could of been done so much better.
