Soul Strut 100: # 31 - DJ Shadow - Endtroducing

[jlee]

HarveyCanal said:And beyond SXSW, I think I'm going to have to go full on pirate this summer, raiding any boat playing Thrift Shop on repeat...because I already know how often I'm going to have to hear that damned song along with dudes saying it's the only rap they've liked since Latyrx.





And I swear I'm not just making this shit up.




Although it has been many a year since I lived in Austin, I can confirm that during my time I had witnessed similar (mind blowing / cringe inducing) spectacles. So with that said, I suspect that some of the perceived animosity from Mr. Canal regarding endtroducing can probably be associated with the locale in which he finds himself. Me thinks he might not have the same feelings if he lived in Jacksonville.





we are a product of our environment.

 

[HarveyCanal]

james said:HarveyCanal said:dudes saying it's the only rap they've liked since Latryx

You have got to be fucking kidding me. There are dudes like this actually walking around? Like, out in the carbon-based world? Talking like this where people can hear them?





You gotta straight Ahab these fools, Harvey. This cannot stand.




I just may spear the next molly'd skurfer who tries to school me on how good the Black Eyed Peas were before the chick joined the band.

 

[HarveyCanal]

It ain't just in Austin, because there will be 100,000 of these dudes from where y'all live joining the one's already here for SXSW in a couple weeks.





I will try to post photos of all the dudes wearing thrift shop furs in 80 degree weather downtown for y'all. Bet.

 

[DJ_Enki]

HarveyCanal said:james said:HarveyCanal said:dudes saying it's the only rap they've liked since Latryx

You have got to be fucking kidding me. There are dudes like this actually walking around? Like, out in the carbon-based world? Talking like this where people can hear them?





You gotta straight Ahab these fools, Harvey. This cannot stand.




I just may spear the next molly'd skurfer who tries to school me on how good the Black Eyed Peas were before the chick joined the band.




No jury in the world would convict you if you did.

 

[DustedDon]

i think i understand now. if its not hot in the skreets/hood/slab, it can't be a great album. case closed.

 

[damms]

Ok I'm gonna call it now


:five_pager:

 

[Guzzo]

DustedDon said:i think i understand now. if its not hot in the skreets/hood/slab, it can't be a great album. case closed.




Image over substance

 

[HarveyCanal]

Okay, Blind Date.

 

[SIRUS]

Guzzo saidustedDon said:i think i understand now. if its not hot in the skreets/hood/slab, it can't be a great album. case closed.




Image over substance

how faded are u in this picture harv?

 

[SIRUS]

by the way, harvey is right; mike dean > anything dj shadow has ever made

 

[HarveyCanal]

SIRUS said:





how faded are u in this picture harv?




That was at the 1st annual DJ Screw Festival in Houston a few years back. Shit, enough years back that I was still married.





So yeah, quite the faded one, my friend.

 

[Guzzo]

HarveyCanal said:Okay, Blind Date.




I've done far worse than Blind Date, IMDB me.





My point with the picture is you seem to have so much venom towards all that surrounds Entroducing (White people like it, DJ Shadow is..., it's not proper to play in a car while driving to anywhere except Lake Travis on a mid-march afternoon, etc.) but you've spent practically none of this thread discussing the music on the album.





The whole thing just reeks of trying to keep some idea of an image. Entroducing didn't feature a picture of Shadow posing on the cover, when I first saw it my initial thought was Shadow must be the black dude on the front. I appreciated the album for being a part of the 1996 hip-hop experience. Another brick in a pile that included Stakes is High, Jeru, WC and the Maad Circle, Cypress Hill and a ton of other things I dug that year.





Looking back with 17 years of jaded opinion may be coloring what the album was to you and everyone else upon its first release. It seemed like a great listen then, I'd probably get nostalgic hearing it now, but I certainly wouldn't see it as the beginning of the great white crate chase.

 

[HarveyCanal]

Guzzo said:HarveyCanal said:Okay, Blind Date.




I've done far worst than Blind date, IMDB me.





My point with the picture is you seem to have so much venom towards all that surrounds Entroducing (White people like it, DJ Shadow is..., it's not proper to play in a car while driving to anywhere except Lake Travis on a mid-march afternoon, etc.) but you've spent practically none of this thread discussing the music on the album.





The whole thing just reeks of trying to keep some idea of an image. Entroducing didn't feature a picture of Shadow posing on the cover, when I first saw it my initial thought was Shadow must be the black dude on the front. I appreciated the album for being a part of the 1996 hip-hop experience. Another brick in a pile that included Stakes is High, Jeru, WC and the Maad Circle, Cypress Hill and a ton of other things I dug that year.





Looking back with 17 years of jaded opinion may be coloring what the album was to you and everyone else upon its first release. It seemed like a great listen then, I'd probably get nostalgic hearing it now, but I certainly wouldn't see it as the beginning of the great white crate chase.




Trust that it's more jokes than any actual venom.





Wouldn't be fun if we were all in uniform agreement.

 

[Lamont]

That Midnight interlude within Stem is cool.








BTW If you didn't feel the urge to partake in the 'permeating the hood' discussion, your chances at being succesful are HIGH.

 

[drbrownscelray]

yuichi said:You guys still talking that nonsense? This is a White America/Euroman (with an Asian or two) digging in the obscure crates stylez. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Same way, I don't get 90% of the syrup-drinkin', pistol whippin, indo-smoking teenage music that harvey and others gets off on. I think the first time, dudes were sweating this was precisely around when dudes were in their late teens. Same shit. Different genre. Let it go, HarvMON. If dudes wanna praise this as one of the top 10 electronica albums in URB magazine, then it is what it is. Why yall madd?







Just now was maybe the second or third time I've ever heard that song and I really in all honesty do not understand what's so special about it. I fully get that if this record was your entry point in to hip hop then it carries huge emotional resonance the same way any other "gateway record" be it "Criminal Minded" all the way on down the line to "He's The DJ I'm The Rapper" (or for that matter a Drake album if you're 14) would, but from a strictly musical standpoint I still cram to understand what makes this special or groundbreaking.

 

[Hollafame]

HarveyCanal said:


Wouldn't be fun if we were all in uniform agreement.




trust that will never be a problem Soul Strut will encounter

 

[skel]

Lamont said:'permeating the hood'




...is up there with 'bass purity' IMHO.

 

[batmon]

drbrownscelray said:yuichi said:You guys still talking that nonsense? This is a White America/Euroman (with an Asian or two) digging in the obscure crates stylez. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Same way, I don't get 90% of the syrup-drinkin', pistol whippin, indo-smoking teenage music that harvey and others gets off on. I think the first time, dudes were sweating this was precisely around when dudes were in their late teens. Same shit. Different genre. Let it go, HarvMON. If dudes wanna praise this as one of the top 10 electronica albums in URB magazine, then it is what it is. Why yall madd?







Just now was maybe the second or third time I've ever heard that song and I really in all honesty do not understand what's so special about it. I fully get that if this record was your entry point in to hip hop then it carries huge emotional resonance the same way any other "gateway record" be it "Criminal Minded" all the way on down the line to "He's The DJ I'm The Rapper" (or for that matter a Drake album if you're 14) would, but from a strictly musical standpoint I still cram to understand what makes this special or groundbreaking.




Before this album who successfully blended Funk, Jazz, UK Electronica, Soul, "Trip Hop", geek records, Turntablism, etc together w/ crate digger/timmy digalot sensibilities through a Instrumental Hip Hop lens( if thats what u wanna describe it as...)?





Yes theres a gang of Hip Hop that was doin crazy flips before him but I feel like it was lightning in a bottle.





Dude was on some extra Technical shit.





Im trying to rack my brain to see where the direct precursors were. 1993-96 shit?





I dont recall an artist that dudes say oh yeah he/they were on that shit RIGHT before Shadow yet he ran with that shit.

 

[kala]

"great white crate chase"








location anyone?


























classic beanpole guz action up in this beeeeeeeaaaaatch

 

[kala]

SIRUS said:by the way, harvey is right; mike dean > anything dj shadow has ever made




if it includes double nickels i will agree