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I'm enjoying, but seriously, his severe misogyny is problematic. Dude seems to equate being a black revolutionary as busting nuts on white women. Also the "sweet and sour" line directed to asian women is wack.
 
phongone said:I'm enjoying, but seriously, his severe misogyny is problematic. Dude seems to equate being a black revolutionary as busting nuts on white women. Also the "sweet and sour" line directed to asian women is wack.




He is certainly sinking deeper and deeper into that hole. He's pissed at racism, but he's going to make women pay.


It wouldn't be any more problematic than any of the other misogyny there is in popular culture if people didn't insist on calling him a socially conscious artist and overlook/forgive it in the name of his so-called genius.





You know the saying bad men move in silence? Same thing with great men. I think he doth declareth too much.





It's interesting that people are reading all this as a fuck you when really, he is trying so hard to impress anyone in earshot.


I can name-drop expensive lamps! I fuck other people's (white) wives! I can speak on art! I wanted desperately to fit into the fashion world before all the other rappers! I'm going to skewer racial inequality (even though I feed off and into it)!





Fuck you and your Hampton house, I???ll fuck your Hampton spouse


Came on her Hampton blouse and in her Hampton mouth






So forward-thinking!
 
Suddenly, I wish people were incessantly talking about Game of Thrones again instead of all this fool-blown quackery.





Yikes.
 
batmon said:bassie said:Rap for people who don't like rap?




"Oh he's so artistic!"




Yeah, well...he is.





I'm no Kanye fan - like I said earlier I can't stand the dude - but hate it or love it, you gotta respect it. I've never heard a record like this before, have you? Industrial synth/noise shit, screaming, political/misogynistic/ego rap to the extreme, dancehall, songs switching up 180 in the middle etc. etc. Half the songs on this album don't even have snares. For a "rap" record, this shit is breaking new ground. This is by no means a cohesive record and dude phoned some things in, but it's nuts and polarizing people like the death penalty and abortion. What other record in recent memory has done that?





So say what you will, I have my opinion and you guys have yours. But from a musical/"ARTISTIC" standpoint, I think some of you are letting who made it cloud your opinion. This is music as spectacle and I can guarantee you that fools will be biting this whole shit.
 
Merely sounds like a Diplo album with a mediocre American rapper on it to me.





I'd rather listen to Earl Sweatshirt who utilizes similar-style beats and can actually rap well.
 
day said:batmon said:bassie said:Rap for people who don't like rap?




"Oh he's so artistic!"




Yeah, well...he is.





I'm no Kanye fan - like I said earlier I can't stand the dude - but hate it or love it, you gotta respect it. I've never heard a record like this before, have you? Industrial synth/noise shit, screaming, political/misogynistic/ego rap to the extreme, dancehall, songs switching up 180 in the middle etc. etc. Half the songs on this album don't even have snares. For a "rap" record, this shit is breaking new ground. This is by no means a cohesive record and dude phoned some things in, but it's nuts and polarizing people like the death penalty and abortion. What other record in recent memory has done that?





So say what you will, I have my opinion and you guys have yours. But from a musical/"ARTISTIC" standpoint, I think some of you are letting who made it cloud your opinion. This is music as spectacle and I can guarantee you fools are gonna be biting this whole shit.




What rapper isnt artistic?





Why does dude get extra points for his package, yet its no different from cats who had concepts surrounding the music.





I heard the "artist" shit back during Graduation when he used Murakami for the album cover. Its not a big deal.
 
batmon said:day said:batmon said:bassie said:Rap for people who don't like rap?




"Oh he's so artistic!"




Yeah, well...he is.





I'm no Kanye fan - like I said earlier I can't stand the dude - but hate it or love it, you gotta respect it. I've never heard a record like this before, have you? Industrial synth/noise shit, screaming, political/misogynistic/ego rap to the extreme, dancehall, songs switching up 180 in the middle etc. etc. Half the songs on this album don't even have snares. For a "rap" record, this shit is breaking new ground. This is by no means a cohesive record and dude phoned some things in, but it's nuts and polarizing people like the death penalty and abortion. What other record in recent memory has done that?





So say what you will, I have my opinion and you guys have yours. But from a musical/"ARTISTIC" standpoint, I think some of you are letting who made it cloud your opinion. This is music as spectacle and I can guarantee you fools are gonna be biting this whole shit.




What rapper isnt artistic?





Why does dude get extra points for his package, yet its no different from cats who had concepts surrounding the music.





I heard the "artist" shit back during Graduation when he used Murakami for the album cover. Its not a big deal.




Is rapping "mary had a little lamb" artistic? I'm not gonna get into a debate over what is art/who is artistic since it's all subjective. There's no separating who dude "is" in the public sphere and what he makes. Which, to me, makes this shit kinda all the more fascinating. It sounds like he came in and vomited a bunch of random thoughts over incredibly calculated music.


So whatever, I'm done defending my opinion. I heard it, I liked it, I was shocked that I liked it and I posted about it.





The end.
 
bassie said:He is certainly sinking deeper and deeper into that hole. He's pissed at racism, but he's going to make women pay.


It wouldn't be any more problematic than any of the other misogyny there is in popular culture if people didn't insist on calling him a socially conscious artist and overlook/forgive it in the name of his so-called genius.





You know the saying bad men move in silence? Same thing with great men. I think he doth declareth too much.





It's interesting that people are reading all this as a fuck you when he really, is trying so hard to impress anyone in earshot.


I can name-drop expensive lamps! I fuck other people's (white) wives! I can speak on art! I wanted desperately to fit into the fashion world before all the other rappers! I'm going to skewer racial inequality (even though I feed off and into it)!





Fuck you and your Hampton house, I???ll fuck your Hampton spouse


Came on her Hampton blouse and in her Hampton mouth






So forward-thinking!




That line from New Slaves is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm Kanye West and I'm going to fight the evil Prison Industrial Complex by raping your women!
 
phongone said:bassie said:He is certainly sinking deeper and deeper into that hole. He's pissed at racism, but he's going to make women pay.


It wouldn't be any more problematic than any of the other misogyny there is in popular culture if people didn't insist on calling him a socially conscious artist and overlook/forgive it in the name of his so-called genius.





You know the saying bad men move in silence? Same thing with great men. I think he doth declareth too much.





It's interesting that people are reading all this as a fuck you when he really, is trying so hard to impress anyone in earshot.


I can name-drop expensive lamps! I fuck other people's (white) wives! I can speak on art! I wanted desperately to fit into the fashion world before all the other rappers! I'm going to skewer racial inequality (even though I feed off and into it)!





Fuck you and your Hampton house, I???ll fuck your Hampton spouse


Came on her Hampton blouse and in her Hampton mouth






So forward-thinking!




That line from New Slaves is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm Kanye West and I'm going to fight the evil Prison Industrial Complex by raping your women!




Kanye is the Django Unchained of rapp.
 
There are very few 'pure' music/artforms anymore. Mash-ups are yesterday's news already and cross-over applies to four different sources. I can't say ground-breaking! or fresh! entered my mind on hearing this.





Daft Punk's new record produced 5+ pages of discussion here.


Yeezus is no more polarizing than the previous or the next; it's people's reaction to him, as stated.
 
HarveyCanal said:Merely sounds like a Diplo album with a mediocre American rapper on it to me.





I'd rather listen to Earl Sweatshirt who utilizes similar-style beats and can actually rap well.




You just gained 1000 points.





Earl is Eons ahead lyrically then everyone right now.
 
I'm not the only one who pronounces this thread title like Biggie ("Yeee-zus, the Notorious just/Please us/With your lyrical thesis"), am I?
 
i agree with bassie's loathe of misogyny but also with day's love of the paradigm shifting music....





.... so i split the difference and downloaded it illegally.
 
actually fuckit it.





Glad you all are enjoying this album. Fuck Kanye and his problems.





I'm fuckin with my boy Mac's new lp. deal.
 
4YearGraduate said: The electro on this album is not good electro, and the rap on this album isn't good rap IMO.




^^^IMO ABSOLUTELY NO PARADIGM SHIFT AT WORK HERE.