essential psych? knowledge wanted!!!
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this is exactly what i was lookin for.
Be sure to check out the "Fave Raves" link. One of those lists is from a poster here.
Yeah, that site is rad. Between that and if you can track down a copy of "Fuzz, Acid & Flowers Revisited" by Vernon Joynson you'll have all the resources you need.
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well, you're right. but i was really disappointed with the silver apples lp. i prefer more straight attempts by bigger bands. silver apples just isn't my kinda thing (i think there are way better records and better musicians in other psych bands). still no need for me to hate... sorry.
some european psych is nice. many european musicians who came from jazz or rock recorded psych in the 60s and 70s. skillful musicians playing wild, progressive music.
Man this record is good. Definitely near the top of stuff I've heard in my travels. Wish I could find a copy of some sort on the relatively cheap.
From the Acid Archives:
"We've been referring to this LP a lot here in the Archives and it is a definite yardstick for the late 60s guitar psych style. Despite its major label origins the sound is remarkably raw and garagey, with no compromises anywhere. Some rate it as the best major label LP all over and it sure blows a lot of mega-rarities away, as well as ALL the LA heavy psych competition from the same era, with an intense and genuinely psychedelic mood. Punky vocals, great and highly original material (especially on side 1), acid guitars that won't quit - I can't see anyone into psych not digging this. Incidentallly, none of the reissues are from mastertapes. [PL]"
I've really been digging on Bohemian Vendetta this week. Their album is SOLID.
There are so many different definitions of "psych music" these days that I think the best route is to try a few different comps to try to determine what definition is your cup of tea.
One school is "Garage Psych" that is typically American and is represented by bands like The Chocolate Watchband, Electric Prunes, Elevators, etc. Evolved directly from "Garage Punk" these bands smoked some dope, dropped some acid and took the early Rolling Stones/Beatles sounds to the next level.
Then there's West Coast Psych and because of it's popularity at the time, this is considered more "mainstream" with bands like Jefferson Airplane, Byrds, Doors, CJ & Fish and even Janis & Jimi.
60's Avant Garde or Freak Out psych includes bands like The Godz, Cro-Magnon, Silver Apples, 50 Foot Hose, etc. Probably all more popular today than back in the day.
Pop Psych or "Sunshine Pop" is another genre that has gotten a lot of attention with LP's like JK & Co., Millenium, etc.
Folk Psych is a whole nother bag and while there are a lot of LP's defined as such, most aren't. Linda Perhacs is the epitome of female folk psych and Perry Leopold the male counterpart.
Bands like Ash Ra Tempel, Brainticket, etc. cover the "space psych" or prog/psych genres and is mostly a Euro style.
Then there is Hard Rock/Psych, Rural Psych, Modern psych, and about 10 other sub-categories. People like Zappa and Captain Beefhart fit in there somewhere too.
All I'm saying is 1) Don't be turned off to Psych in general if you hear one of these genres and it's not your thang....and....2) Find out what style is your fave and then you can dig deeper into that genre as I've really only mentioned major label artists above and the MAJORITY of psych, as documented at the Lysergia website is private press underground fare.
Rich
One school is "Garage Psych" that is typically American and is represented by bands like The Chocolate Watchband, Electric Prunes, Elevators, etc. Evolved directly from "Garage Punk" these bands smoked some dope, dropped some acid and took the early Rolling Stones/Beatles sounds to the next level.
Then there's West Coast Psych and because of it's popularity at the time, this is considered more "mainstream" with bands like Jefferson Airplane, Byrds, Doors, CJ & Fish and even Janis & Jimi.
60's Avant Garde or Freak Out psych includes bands like The Godz, Cro-Magnon, Silver Apples, 50 Foot Hose, etc. Probably all more popular today than back in the day.
Pop Psych or "Sunshine Pop" is another genre that has gotten a lot of attention with LP's like JK & Co., Millenium, etc.
Folk Psych is a whole nother bag and while there are a lot of LP's defined as such, most aren't. Linda Perhacs is the epitome of female folk psych and Perry Leopold the male counterpart.
Bands like Ash Ra Tempel, Brainticket, etc. cover the "space psych" or prog/psych genres and is mostly a Euro style.
Then there is Hard Rock/Psych, Rural Psych, Modern psych, and about 10 other sub-categories. People like Zappa and Captain Beefhart fit in there somewhere too.
All I'm saying is 1) Don't be turned off to Psych in general if you hear one of these genres and it's not your thang....and....2) Find out what style is your fave and then you can dig deeper into that genre as I've really only mentioned major label artists above and the MAJORITY of psych, as documented at the Lysergia website is private press underground fare.
Rich
Great post Rock.
You guys know the kinda stuff I've been asking about this year. When people ask me what I'm into, I don't usually answer "psych" but instead "American rock from 66-75" cos little of what is labelled psych (by myself included) actually includes long sustained passages of "psychedelia".
Oh, and you all should have this on some format if you're into ANY of this....
Info plaeseno filler here:
first... i'm not a psych collector/connaisseur or whatsoever but anyway this one came to my attention:
"Edzayawa - Projection One" on the purple/red EMI 005 Nigeria label! originally Ghanian musicians recorded this afropsych/funk/beat album in 1973, in lagos at the same time when BLO released their legendary "Chapter One" (EMI 001) album...
i prefer Edzayawa by miles but that's just me!
additional stuff:
a guy (into psych) i know, mentioned that this is one of the very few real psych albums out of nigeria (west africa?),
as it has this awesome echo effects & stuff for example! well, those others classic african records (ofege, apostles... ) which are mostly classified as "psych", aren't really psych per se...
but that's what he says, i know nothing ! i'm just a music junkie...
all i can say is that musically this album is one of the best, deepest & most unique i have... amen ;-) rarity.. i dunno?
i'd say it's just as rare as BLO but lesser known and therefore not in the four figured league (yet)! but i don't really care about its value...
maybe someone else on the board has more info...
i dont pretend to know too much about "psych" and what i do know is probably due to the appearances of strong rhythym sections.
maybe these work on the not too raer tip:
Can records
animated egg
glass prism
old gong LPs
amon duul
and the soulstrut classic- demon fuzz/afreaka
im going to check for those floyd records mentioned above. thanks, t
maybe these work on the not too raer tip:
Can records
animated egg
glass prism
old gong LPs
amon duul
and the soulstrut classic- demon fuzz/afreaka
im going to check for those floyd records mentioned above. thanks, t
Schoggi, I grabbed the mp3 you posted of this back at the end of last year when you mentioned this record. any chance we could get you to post this whole bad boy up?
yeah, it is hard to pin down what psych is when a lot of folks call a record "psych" because there is a fuzz guitar solo or maybe just an assload of reverb, but I would classify these as truely psych records:
the first 3 Os Mutantes LPs....now, some folks might feel that these LPs are overrated, but I do not. Psychedelic in every sense...the sound, the arrangements, the songwriting, studio processes...the whole kit and kaboodle...I assume the lyrics are but I dont know Portugese.
The late 60s output by Gal Costa, Gilberto Gil, Caetano Veloso...the backing band for these LPs, Os Brazoes, also made a damn fine LP.
Brainticket "Cottonwood Hill" and "Celestial Ocean" Swiss/Italian out thereness. "Cottonwood Hill" might be one of the most relentlessy pyschedelic LPs of all time.
Pretty Things "SF sorrow"
Faust "IV" their most poppy, straightforward LP of songs, but truely psych in every sense of their dirty, conmune living German hippyness..
will post more later...gotta run.
the first 3 Os Mutantes LPs....now, some folks might feel that these LPs are overrated, but I do not. Psychedelic in every sense...the sound, the arrangements, the songwriting, studio processes...the whole kit and kaboodle...I assume the lyrics are but I dont know Portugese.
The late 60s output by Gal Costa, Gilberto Gil, Caetano Veloso...the backing band for these LPs, Os Brazoes, also made a damn fine LP.
Brainticket "Cottonwood Hill" and "Celestial Ocean" Swiss/Italian out thereness. "Cottonwood Hill" might be one of the most relentlessy pyschedelic LPs of all time.
Pretty Things "SF sorrow"
Faust "IV" their most poppy, straightforward LP of songs, but truely psych in every sense of their dirty, conmune living German hippyness..
will post more later...gotta run.
These are good:
Ultimate Spinach S/T
SRC S/T
Joyride - Friend Sound
Twink - Think Pink
Mecki Mark Men S/T
The Head Shop S/T
Mashmakhan S/T - Is this psych, is this pop, or is it soul? I don't know but it's pretty rad.
Dark - Round the Edges is so damn rare, but so damn essential at the same time. Cop reissue w/ bonus tracks.
Ultimate Spinach S/T
SRC S/T
Joyride - Friend Sound
Twink - Think Pink
Mecki Mark Men S/T
The Head Shop S/T
Mashmakhan S/T - Is this psych, is this pop, or is it soul? I don't know but it's pretty rad.
Dark - Round the Edges is so damn rare, but so damn essential at the same time. Cop reissue w/ bonus tracks.
Shiva's Headband - Undermine
Pussy - All of my life
The Baroques - Mary Jane
The Rugbys - King and Queen of the world
Listening - You're not there
Arcadium - It takes a woman
Human Beast - Reality presented as an alternative
Tripsichord - Family song
Blues Magoos - Pipe Dream
The Illusion - I love you, yes i do
Reign Ghost - Travels of Blue Paradox
Pussy - Come back June
The Morning Due - Sing out
Blues Magoos - She's coming home
Tripsichord - Fly Baby
JK and Co. - Fly
Pussy - All of my life
The Baroques - Mary Jane
The Rugbys - King and Queen of the world
Listening - You're not there
Arcadium - It takes a woman
Human Beast - Reality presented as an alternative
Tripsichord - Family song
Blues Magoos - Pipe Dream
The Illusion - I love you, yes i do
Reign Ghost - Travels of Blue Paradox
Pussy - Come back June
The Morning Due - Sing out
Blues Magoos - She's coming home
Tripsichord - Fly Baby
JK and Co. - Fly
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