hey mopey pants..dont release any more records

[bull_ox]

Palace and Smog are actually pretty damn good compared to the legions of bands that have come since (which I was referring to)

Seriously, we haven't even heard of any of these guys the kids love today...

 

[Brian]

This was the flyer Hook saw.

i looked at this dude's website and i have an overwhelming urge to assault him

 

[Deep_Sang]

It just strikes me as incredibly self-indulgent and insincere to use emotions as a convention rather than a source of inspiration.

I think that is an interesting statement. I agree with you in regards to the self-indulgence of writing TONS of songs with lyrics focussed on one emotion, that's nothing but. However, I don't think it is anyone's place to say whether someone else's lyrics are insincere. I have met many musicians who play emo styled music, and they all basically seem pretty depressed. I don't really question their sincerity, but I think that if they were less INDULGENT with their depression then their music might seem more sincere. Might even write a happy song.

That said, I do agree that when an artist focusses on one theme in their music time after time, it starts to look more like a convention of the music than an inspired source, you are right.

 

[BreakSelf]

It just strikes me as incredibly self-indulgent and insincere to use emotions as a convention rather than a source of inspiration.

I think that is an interesting statement. I agree with you in regards to the self-indulgence of writing TONS of songs with lyrics focussed on one emotion, that's nothing but. However, I don't think it is anyone's place to say whether someone else's lyrics are insincere.
No, you're right, it isn't my place to decide who's being sincere and who isn't. I think what I was trying to express is that the emo aesthetic is not, from my point of view, an 'effective' way to tap into the listeners' feelings of frailty and vulnerability. That is, there's a point at which artists stop making sad/sentimental/morose music and start making emo albums.

 

[Soulhawk]

WhAT about Bright Eyes?

anyone else want to hurt them/him?

some of those mopey emo dudes get tons of tail I betcha, but then they feel bad about it later...

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[Rod_Torfulson]

I really hate the Get Up Kids. Is that the kind of shit you're getting at? Someone needs to explain the difference between whining and emoting to these ass clowns.

 

[pickwick33]

(Will Oldham's) head....my god, it's at least a city block long.

NO SHIT! My man got a head look like a Chicken McNugget!!!

 

[DrWu]

I have a feeling that this is Hookup's nightmare. It's all here; the face paint, the trembling upper lip and the overly earnest cover of another super mopey mofo.

 

[behemoth]

 

[ladyday]

WhAT about Bright Eyes?

anyone else want to hurt them/him?

some of those mopey emo dudes get tons of tail I betcha, but then they feel bad about it later...

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God, yes.

I don't really get the naming yourself as if you were a band even though you are one person, either. Like this guy:

Get the barf bag ready.

 

[pickwick33]

I don't really get the naming yourself as if you were a band even though you are one person, either. Like this guy:

Get the barf bag ready.

I can't stand that trend, either. Sam Beam/Iron & Wine come to mind. And I think Stanley Dural/Buckwheat Zydeco may have done it before anybody...his albums usually show just him on the covers, but I've seen more than one piece of reference material that made it look like "Buckwheat Zydeco" was the name of "Stanley Dural"'s band. "Iron & Wine featuring Sam Beam" is cool, but "Iron & Wine" as Sam's new name =

I understand that sometimes band lineups aren't that stable, and musicians probably do this just so people know who the point man (or woman) is supposed to be, in case somebody leaves. But even so, one person named after a band is kinda goofy.

 

[DocMcCoy]

I was at the club last night and noticed a poster for some sad sack dipshit playing there soon...said poster had a picture of whom I assumed is the artist holding his head in hands as if he was sobbing. f*cking pathetic. Rock music is supposed to make you feel better, supposed to make you forget your shitty life and your troubles, you are supposed to feel better after you listen to it...you arent supposed to feel bad after you hear/see it. where is the rock that makes ya feel better, that makes wanna flip off everything you hate, makes ya wanna get fucked up? I am sick of reflective, emo-ass bands and their sensitive emotions and their sad ass songs...go away, please...for the sake of good music....please.

I listened to this last night, and immediately felt a million times better. If you're one of those dudes who has some kind of too-cool-for-school attitude towards that first Boston album because it was everywhere, it sold a gajillion copies, and all the jocks at school rode hard for it, then you and I can never truly be friends. I really couldn't give a tuppenny F*ck whether or not this song gets murdered by every shitty bar band from sea to shining sea 365 days a year; I love it to the bone, and you must deal.

 

[verb606]

I listened to this last night, and immediately felt a million times better. If you're one of those dudes who has some kind of too-cool-for-school attitude towards that first Boston album because it was everywhere, it sold a gajillion copies, and all the jocks at school rode hard for it, then you and I can never truly be friends. I really couldn't give a tuppenny F*ck whether or not this song gets murdered by every shitty bar band from sea to shining sea 365 days a year; I love it to the bone, and you must deal.

massive cosign. I don't even own that motherfucker but I feel like I do because if you turn on the Loop in Chicago (new/classic rock station) a song off this album is never far away. Shit is so uplifting. I'm always in a better mood after I hear it.

I was trying to think about why I like "classic rock" (the traditional definition) so much. I was born in 1976, so it's not like I was rocking out to it in bars when it came out. I realized that it's because it's f*cking fun. It was party music. Teens in the 70's were just as angsty and disillusioned as these emo fools, but when school was out on a Friday they partied down with some ass-kicking music, not more angsty glum shit. I'm not mad at the Morisseys and the Cures of the world, but I'm going to put on some "rock" music, it needs to do just that.

 

[DJBombjack]

I was trying to think about why I like "classic rock" (the traditional definition) so much. I was born in 1976, so it's not like I was rocking out to it in bars when it came out. I realized that it's because it's f*cking fun. It was party music. Teens in the 70's were just as angsty and disillusioned as these emo fools, but when school was out on a Friday they partied down with some ass-kicking music, not more angsty glum shit. I'm not mad at the Morisseys and the Cures of the world, but I'm going to put on some "rock" music, it needs to do just that.

This rings true with me too. I grew up in the UK in the 70s/80s and was lucky enough to be able to listen to BBC radio - whose DJs included Dave Lee Travis and John Peel. To this day I feel so lucky to have been able to listen to a nightly show like John Peels for pretty much all of my teenage years.

And in the spirit of the Boston YouTube post, I would like to add one of my own, a song I will listen to until the day I die. (No studio version found only live)

 

[selperfuge]

 

[skel]

and was lucky enough to be able to listen to BBC radio - whose DJs included Dave Lee Travis and John Peel.

I may be misreading this, but are you saying DLT was a good listen?

Kid Jensen, Mike Read, Annie Nightingale, yes.

DLT.... not so much.

 

[DJBombjack]

DLT - c'mon, the pub dart game!

 

[Supergood]

That pic is goofy on multiple levels. Why are folks taking cell phone pix of The Emo?

 

[skel]

That pic is goofy on multiple levels. Why are folks taking cell phone pix of The Emo?

agreed

 

[gravelheadwrap]

Oh Man! This sums up many shows I went to in high school. I had friends in punk bands, that weren't emo or even angsty and you'd get kids like this sitting outside on the bench crying or on a chair in a crowded ass area with their head in their hands looking exactly like this.

I've even saw this at a rap show. Count Bass D and a few others were playing. Its like some of these kids think just because the artists/musicians are "indie" or "underground" or whatever.. in that sort of "scene", they think its emo.

It really feels like these kids do it for attention. "OMG my girlfriend broke up with me four days ago and I am at a show displaying my emotions"