Pepper Spraying An 8 Year Old Yay or Nay
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sabadabada said:
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!"
one of my fave simpson's quotes
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!"
one of my fave simpson's quotes
Not too long ago I was in a store and a kid that was probably about 8 years old was running around yelling loudly and he actually went up and punched a woman who was a stranger to him. All the while the mother is not doing a damn thing. As they were leaving the store he yelled out "Sayanara N***ers" and looks over at me. I gave him a pretty mean look and he ran over to the Mom, grabbed her leg and said "That man's being mean to me".
More parenting fail.
More parenting fail.
"Aiden's mom said her son was treated like "a common criminal." "
Well, at eight years old he already is.
"Mandy said the boy was transferred to a school with behavior problems"
Great, now he's going to a school that has behavioral problems, a lot of good that's going to do.
"I got like anger things," Aiden said. "It's just who I am. I think it's not ever going to go away."
Then you are going to go away, most likely to jail.
Well, at eight years old he already is.
"Mandy said the boy was transferred to a school with behavior problems"
Great, now he's going to a school that has behavioral problems, a lot of good that's going to do.
"I got like anger things," Aiden said. "It's just who I am. I think it's not ever going to go away."
Then you are going to go away, most likely to jail.
I have so much respect for teachers and mostly (low paid) aides, who work with children with behavioral problems.
They deal with these kids every day, with out pepper spray or the police, and in most cases make progress in getting the children to modify their behavior.
They deal with these kids every day, with out pepper spray or the police, and in most cases make progress in getting the children to modify their behavior.
Got it strut, an adult who gets arrested for the third time committing a lewd public act, don't even mention that as he needs maximum protection so his lil feelings don't get hurt, but an 8 year old acting up in class, bring out the bazooka and nuke him...awesome!
Rockadelic said: As they were leaving the store he yelled out "Sayanara N***ers" and looks over at me. I gave him a pretty mean look and he ran over to the Mom, grabbed her leg and said "That man's being mean to me".
More parenting fail.
thats so terrible but really funny all at the same time. massive fail. then again, my mom tells me stories of how my innercity daycare conditioned me to sling "fuck you" and "motherfucker" around liberally in public places, earning me plenty backhands to the grill.
philly inquirer just ran a seven part story on violence in schools and it highlighted the violence toward classmates AND teachers in the elementary grades. kindergarteners hurting tecahing aides, third graders punching pregnant teachers in the stomach. crazy shit. i can corroborate absolutely all of it from working in disfunctional schools at all grade levels. it never bothered me, cause i was not impressed, scared or startled by the behavior, so i could talk them down or tackle them if it got to that...but i realize that most teachers shouldnt be expected to not be a little shook up when kids go absolutely berserk.
i think a lot of it has root in families, neighborhood situations. but i also think the schooling model is not very suited to young children. little boys SHOULD be bugging the fuck out when their schools are teaching them to excell at standardized tests and cut recess hours in order to do so. fuck that shit. when i was in finland, i remember sampo telling me that it was law that kids get 15 minute breaks for every hour of schooling...and that makes a hell of a lot of sense to me. theres a reason why the classroom discipline of the "good ol days" came along with corporal punishment.
back to the initial question...its a shame, but im not even that bothered by the kid getting pepper sprayed. that kid (and that parent's failures) are holding his entire class hostage. ideally he and his mom would be getting steady counseling and he could be integrated into classes with teachers specically trained to deal with that bullshit. cops should have been able to get the stick out his hands, but whatever...its not even the biggest issue here
More parenting fail.
thats so terrible but really funny all at the same time. massive fail. then again, my mom tells me stories of how my innercity daycare conditioned me to sling "fuck you" and "motherfucker" around liberally in public places, earning me plenty backhands to the grill.
philly inquirer just ran a seven part story on violence in schools and it highlighted the violence toward classmates AND teachers in the elementary grades. kindergarteners hurting tecahing aides, third graders punching pregnant teachers in the stomach. crazy shit. i can corroborate absolutely all of it from working in disfunctional schools at all grade levels. it never bothered me, cause i was not impressed, scared or startled by the behavior, so i could talk them down or tackle them if it got to that...but i realize that most teachers shouldnt be expected to not be a little shook up when kids go absolutely berserk.
i think a lot of it has root in families, neighborhood situations. but i also think the schooling model is not very suited to young children. little boys SHOULD be bugging the fuck out when their schools are teaching them to excell at standardized tests and cut recess hours in order to do so. fuck that shit. when i was in finland, i remember sampo telling me that it was law that kids get 15 minute breaks for every hour of schooling...and that makes a hell of a lot of sense to me. theres a reason why the classroom discipline of the "good ol days" came along with corporal punishment.
back to the initial question...its a shame, but im not even that bothered by the kid getting pepper sprayed. that kid (and that parent's failures) are holding his entire class hostage. ideally he and his mom would be getting steady counseling and he could be integrated into classes with teachers specically trained to deal with that bullshit. cops should have been able to get the stick out his hands, but whatever...its not even the biggest issue here
HarveyCanal said:Got it strut, an adult who gets arrested for the third time committing a lewd public act, don't even mention that as he needs maximum protection so his lil feelings don't get hurt, but an 8 year old acting up in class, bring out the bazooka and nuke him...awesome!
nice sentence structure.
nice sentence structure.
jaymack said:HarveyCanal said:Got it strut, an adult who gets arrested for the third time committing a lewd public act, don't even mention that as he needs maximum protection so his lil feelings don't get hurt, but an 8 year old acting up in class, bring out the bazooka and nuke him...awesome!
nice sentence structure.
Its Harvey. ""It's just who [he is]. I think it's not ever going to go away."
nice sentence structure.
Its Harvey. ""It's just who [he is]. I think it's not ever going to go away."
jaymack said:HarveyCanal said:Got it strut, an adult who gets arrested for the third time committing a lewd public act, don't even mention that as he needs maximum protection so his lil feelings don't get hurt, but an 8 year old acting up in class, bring out the bazooka and nuke him...awesome!
nice sentence structure.
nice sentence structure.
HarveyCanal said:Got it strut, an adult who gets arrested for the third time committing a lewd public act, don't even mention that as he needs maximum protection so his lil feelings don't get hurt, but an 8 year old acting up in class, bring out the bazooka and nuke him...awesome!
"acting up"
This kid wasnt throwing his crayons...he had the impulse to fashion and brandish a shiv to attack whomever got near him and acted on it. A "time out" aint gonna help in this situation.
"acting up"
This kid wasnt throwing his crayons...he had the impulse to fashion and brandish a shiv to attack whomever got near him and acted on it. A "time out" aint gonna help in this situation.
Take the "shiv" from the lil fuckers hands, period. That's your job, not to torture the runt in the process.
